Evolution

[earlthekevin]

[jesusaurus]

Jesus was a dinosaur so by personal bias I have to say yes.

[Blastgirl]

Evolution doesn't replace belief in creation. So I can vote yes and still maintain my Catholicism.

[hitler]

To "evolve"(pun intended) this thread how much detail do you want?

[kenan]

I don't know if I believe in evolution, but I do know that I don't believe in creation, so I guess I will just vote yay

[im_an_alien]

Yay.

[werwoof]

Evolution requires blind faith, because logic and science militate against it. All branches of science. As well as history, mathematics, archeology, anthropology, genetics, physics, astronomy, probability, and stuff I can't think of right now.

There is Creation, therefore a Creator. It is mathematically impossible for things to be the way they are without intelligent design.

Information, such as DNA or instinct, suggests intelligence.
God hates death. Species may adapt to a changing environment, but not through mutation, and not through astronomical periods of time. And adaptation of species does not explain the creation of life.

Evolutionists are in denial, because evolution is not even a theory. There are so many huge holes in this fantasy, it's almost laughable, except that Hitler and Stalin used Darwinism to repress and murder well over a hundred million people.

That's all I have to say about this, because I could go on for hours, giving reasons that "evolution" doesn't make sense, and creationism does.

Before you rage at me, remember, I didn't open this thread. ;D

Can we talk about dimension theory now?

[jesusaurus]

So some big dude in a white robe was like:
i iz bored so I make teh humans and it takes me 6 dayz cuz I iz lazy lolololololol.

z0mg eve u eated my apple gtfo! pwnd noob


ya creation makes sense

[edlin]

Before you rage at me, remember, I didn't open this thread.

Sorry, I am an equal-opportunity rager.

It is mathematically impossible for things to be the way they are without intelligent design.

I find this very amusing. Please explain.

Information, such as DNA or instinct, suggests intelligence.

DNA is the organism's method of storing genetic information. Intelligence is required to interpret this information, not to create it.

Evolutionists are in denial, because evolution is not even a theory.

I lol'd. If you can't support creationism without lying, you're obviously in a worse position than I had thought.

There are so many huge holes in this fantasy, it's almost laughable

Post them and I will refute them.

except that Hitler and Stalin used Darwinism to repress and murder well over a hundred million people.

That is illogical. Hitler and Stalin were insane, and killed those people because they didn't like them. If Darwinism hadn't been conceived of, they would have justified their actions in some other way.

[jesusaurus]

edlinfan said:

Before you rage at me, remember, I didn't open this thread.

Sorry, I am an equal-opportunity rager.




I find this very amusing. Please explain.


DNA is the organism's method of storing genetic information. Intelligence is required to interpret this information, not to create it.


I lol'd. If you can't support creationism without lying, you're obviously in a worse position than I had thought.


Post them and I will refute them.

except that Hitler and Stalin used Darwinism to repress and murder well over a hundred million people.

That is illogical. Hitler and Stalin were insane, and killed those people because they didn't like them. If Darwinism hadn't been conceived of, they would have justified their actions in some other way.

[Blastgirl]

Science evolution does not negate creation.

Things do evolve via environmental happenings. If people of different races conceive children a combination is created. There are more than two races so it is even possible to add more mixed races to an eventual new titled race. That would be evolution of sorts.

There are many examples but it's late at night and that says enough.

And for those who believe in a BIG BANG theory that requires more faith than any participant in any organized Religion could ever have.

[werwoof]

You guys (not Blastgirl) don't know history nor science.
Evolution is purely wishful thinking by those who don't want to acknowledge God. Or personal accountability.
And yes, Hitler was very interested in social Darwinism. Darwinism itself is racist. It claims that the darker races are inferior to the light-skinned races.

The only one who can change your mind is God Himself, and if He doesn't exist, you don't have to worry about it.

P.S.: Anyone who dislikes Vista can't be too bad. ;D

[jesusaurus]

werwoof said:

You guys (not Blastgirl) don't know history nor science.
Evolution is purely wishful thinking by those who don't want to acknowledge god. Or personal accountability.
And yes, Hitler was very interested in social Darwinism. Darwinism itself is racist. It claims that the darker races are inferior to the light-skinned races.

The only one who can change your mind is god himself, and if he doesn't exist, you don't have to worry about it.

Let's go get some fresh tattoos, eh? I'm about due for some new ones. ;D

fix'd

[werwoof]

blastgirl said:

And for those who believe in a BIG BANG theory that requires more faith than any participant in any organized Religion could ever have.

Yup, Blastgirl! You are a breath of fresh air. ;D Er, that's not a pun refering to farts.com.

[jesusaurus]

Einstein has proved that the universe expands, but that doesn't mean the big bang happened. Nor does that have anything to do with this topic.

[Blastgirl]

The most anti Religious people are often the future evangelists.

And St Paul who wrote most of the New Testament was one of the Anti-Christians who stoned and killed St Steven the first martyr when Steven was in his ministry.

Eventually Paul saw the light. So one never knows.

It's one thing not to believe, it's another to become offended by those who do.

[Geekthras (The Gizmo of Yore)]

werwoof said:

Creationism requires blind faith, because logic and science militate against it. All branches of science. As well as history, mathematics, archeology, anthropology, genetics, physics, astronomy, probability, and stuff I can't think of right now.

Fix'd. Seriously, that argument is much more valid when you replace one word.

Have you heard of the white and black butterflies in London?

Before the Industrial Revolution, all the butterflies were white or light. Then, as the trees became darker from pollution, the butterflies changed also. They went from 2% black to 95% black in about 40 years.

And now for showing that the original point failed, here we go.
History - You can't use this because it depends on who you listen to.
Mathematics - What do integrals and logarithms have to do with biology?
Archeology - Once again, what do buildings have to do with evolution?
Anthropology - Explain 'Lucy.' Explain all the other pre-sapiens speciments.
Genetics - WOW WOW. Genetics is the basis of evolution. Whaa? The entire point of genetics is that DNA and everything else changes between generations.
Physics - This in fact helps back up claims of aging, and places specimens in a definate order that shows gradual change.
Astronomy - I suppose you could argue that the fact nothing is alive in space is because Earth was chosen. But we've found other Earth-like planets. Please go there and show me that there is no life , then this point will be more valid.
Probability - It is quite probable for change to occur based on surroundings. See the example above.

Finally, you are setting up a straw man by using the wrong definition of "Evolution," which is

6.Biol a. Of animal or vegetable organisms and their parts: The process of developing from a rudimentary stage to a mature or changed state.

Quote comes from the Oxford English Dictionary, Compact version: Complete text reproduced Micrographically, (c) 2001.

[edlin]

You guys (not Blastgirl) don't know history nor science.

Hell hath no fury like a nerd scorned.

Evolution is purely wishful thinking by those who don't want to acknowledge God. Or personal accountability.

It's a scientific theory which is backed up by fact.

Darwinism itself is racist. It claims that the darker races are inferior to the light-skinned races.

And where does it claim that?

The only one who can change your mind is God Himself, and if He doesn't exist, you don't have to worry about it.

I do believe in God, but I acknowledge evolution as well.

P.S.: Anyone who dislikes Vista can't be too bad. ;D

It's good to see that I'm not the only one on Lewasite who doesn't like Vista.