Evolution

[Blastgirl]

edlinfan said:

I do believe in God, but I acknowledge evolution as well.

Exactly. One does not necessarily replace the other.

[werwoof]

As much as I like and respect Einstein, he didn't prove that the universe expands and contracts. What relevence does this theory have to origins or evolution, anyway?

Blastgirl, I respect you, too, but evolution and faith are not compatible. Changing of species wouldn't explain the beginning of life, anyway. Nor would it explain the origin of the universe.

Edlinfan, you may scorn me, but it sure doesn't mean you're right.

As I said before, it's mathematically impossible for all of the elements to come together to form the planets, the stars, and life (BTW, what would the first organisms eat?).
Even if proteins accidentally formed, where did the spark of LIFE come from?
The universe is winding down. There was a beginning, and even secular scientists grudgingly admit that everything that is known points to intelligent design.

Mutation never improves a species, except in comic books and public school textbooks. Mutants are defective and die, often in the womb, and man-made hybrid animals are unable to reproduce (how did the first organisms have the information to reproduce themselves?).

An aside: The light color variation of the (gypsy?) moth stood out against the dark soot on the trees, so the birds wiped out the light-colored ones pretty quickly, leaving the dark ones. Guess what color most of their progeny will be?

[cactus1]

Changing of species wouldn't explain the beginning of life, anyway. Nor would it explain the origin of the universe.

Obviously, evolution has little effect on the universe. Like the Big Bang, there appears to be phases in the creation and constant (had we not interferred with the ecosystem) improvement of life.

[werwoof]

Things left alone move from order to disorder. Only an intelligent being can move things in the other direction.

[werwoof]

edlinfan said:

You guys (not Blastgirl) don't know history nor science.

Hell hath no fury like a nerd scorned. Nerd??? I wish, dude.

It's a scientific theory which is backed up by fact. Uh, wrong.
It's NOT scientific (it qualifies as a religion), and facts DISPROVE it.

And where does it claim that?
Read it. I know you can read.

P.S.: Anyone who dislikes Vista can't be too bad. ;D

It's good to see that I'm not the only one on Lewasite who doesn't like Vista.

I don't like how Bill Gates has screwed up the development of computers. He's more interested in business and profits than in making an excellent product.
I'm told that Apple products stink, too.

[Geekthras (The Gizmo of Yore)]

werwoof said:

As much as I like and respect Einstein, he didn't prove that the universe expands and contracts. What relevence does this theory have to origins or evolution, anyway?

Blastgirl, I respect you, too, but evolution and faith are not compatible. Changing of species wouldn't explain the beginning of life, anyway. Nor would it explain the origin of the universe.

Edlinfan, you may scorn me, but it sure doesn't mean you're right.

As I said before, it's mathematically impossible for all of the elements to come together to form the planets, the stars, and life (BTW, what would the first organisms eat?).
Even if proteins accidentally formed, where did the spark of LIFE come from?
The universe is winding down. There was a beginning, and even secular scientists grudgingly admit that everything that is known points to intelligent design.

Mutation never improves a species, except in comic books and public school textbooks. Mutants are defective and die, often in the womb, and man-made hybrid animals are unable to reproduce (how did the first organisms have the information to reproduce themselves?).

An aside: The light color variation of the (gypsy?) moth stood out against the dark soot on the trees, so the birds wiped out the light-colored ones pretty quickly, leaving the dark ones. Guess what color most of their progeny will be?

Werwoof. STOP DOUBLE-POSTING!


PLEASE!

On the moths, yes obviously the dark ones will survive, so the species will get darker and darker. There's a word for that:

Evolution

[Peon]

werwoof said:

Mutation never improves a species, except in comic books and public school textbooks. Mutants are defective and die, often in the womb, and man-made hybrid animals are unable to reproduce (how did the first organisms have the information to reproduce themselves?).

Would you please explain to me how bacteria are becoming immune to antibiotics, then?

[aido179]

(BTW, what would the first organisms eat?).
Even if proteins accidentally formed, where did the spark of LIFE come from?

the first organisms were bacterium, they fed off photosynthesis. They adapted to their surroundings and became sea creatures, they adapted and created new species which also adapted in different ways.

[edlin]

Blastgirl, I respect you, too, but evolution and faith are not compatible.

I'll be getting to that in a minute.

Changing of species wouldn't explain the beginning of life, anyway. Nor would it explain the origin of the universe.

Evolution explains the changing of species, and God explains the origin of the universe and possibly the beginning of life. So evolution and faith are compatible.

As I said before, it's mathematically impossible for all of the elements to come together to form the planets, the stars, and life (BTW, what would the first organisms eat?).

Mathematically improbable, not impossible.

Do you even know how stars form? Dense clouds of dust and gas collapse due to gravity and start a fusion reaction. Gravity counteracts entropy, in this case.

Planets are formed in the same way from the "leftovers" of the cloud (but they're light enough that they don't start a fusion reaction.)

No one *knows* how the first life started, but the first organisms were almost definitely solar-powered, like almost_aido said.

> And where does it claim that?
Read it. I know you can read.

It says that darker races of ants are inferior, which has no bearing on humans and is not racism.

Uh, wrong.
It's NOT scientific (it qualifies as a religion), and facts DISPROVE it

Evolution is a religion? Um, no it's not...

Present a fact that disproves evolution. C'mon, I dare you.

And finally,

Nerd??? I wish, dude.

Are you challenging my geekitude factor!? I'll have you know that I'm a god among geeks, according to this.

And before you say there is no logical basis for evolution, let me remind you that there is no logical basis for creationism either.

[jesusaurus]

werwoof said:

As much as I like and respect Einstein, he didn't prove that the universe expands and contracts. What relevence does this theory have to origins or evolution, anyway?

Blastgirl brought it up so ask her.

Technically it was Hubble but Einstein's theories led him to it.
and it does expand skyserver.sdss.org/dr1/en/astro/universe/universe.asp

and I never said it contracts so you fail.

[Kevin]

Thanks to werwoof, I was able to fix me up a big steaming cup of lawl.

[Peon]

spartan said:

Thanks to werwoof, I was able to fix me up a big steaming cup of lawl.

Get ready for the lawls when he tries to answer my previous post. They might knock you down if you're not ready.

[Captain Awesome]

Werwoof, you are so oblivious to everything, it's hilarious. It's like Spartan's cup of lawl-noodles just took a huge, even steamier dump of lawl, and then ate it, and then vomited it back up again, prompting a chain reaction of even more vomit-lawl.

This might just classify as "epic lulz"

[Geekthras (The Gizmo of Yore)]

Quick, call up Fox! The terrorists are getting lulz! They must be stopped *exploding truck*

[edlin]

Yes. I wonder if werwoof is employed by the Anonymi, because he could be their #1 supplier of lulz.

[jesusaurus]

No, he pretty much is their life force, like carbon dioxide to trees. Their sole reason for being alive. Their god if you will

[werwoof]

Brick, shut up!

[jesusaurus]

werwoof said:

Brick, shut up!

rofl