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Post by Classicblast on Sept 11, 2012 0:14:49 GMT -5
I forgot about the stimulus plan. Why didn't they just give all the tax payers a portion of that money if they really wanted to stimulate the economy?
What the hell do I know? I'm just a retired minor league baseball player. Not even good enough to make a name for myself how do I know what makes for spending or stimulating economic growth. Well I don't think Obama care is a good thing either I've already expressed that.
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Post by Phil on Sept 11, 2012 15:06:11 GMT -5
A number of my acquaintances have proven that having more education doesn't necessarily make you smarter
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Post by Phil on Sept 13, 2012 13:04:37 GMT -5
Today's trekking poles are showing Mr obama gaining steam. I just wish somebody could give me 1 good reason why they support him
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Post by Classicblast on Sept 15, 2012 22:56:53 GMT -5
And when does he get to stop saying "It was like that when I got here."
I played minor pro baseball in AA for 15 seasons and 2 in rookie league. Whenever a team hired a new manager they had a season to turn things around. If it didn't look promising that things were turning around then they got fired.
And the manager does not have unconditional control of a ball team. He must get the cooperation of all the players and the support of the GM to get him needed players and the ownerships budget and if the parent team is able or willing to supply personnel. That's in rebuttal to a possible comment that the President has congressional and judicial flack to deal with.
If lets say a last place team hired me to be their manager right now. If my winning percentage isn't better with the same group I would not get a second season. If it's only marginally better and they got me a player or two that are prospects I have about half a season to reach .500 or above and if that doesn't happen I get shown the door. I'd never be able to get away with "these players are not contenders and the guy before me ruined them"
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Post by Kimm on Sept 16, 2012 13:38:46 GMT -5
The polls keep changing but Obama seems to maintain a slight lead especially in union industrial states. Theey usually always vote democrat and usually dont know 2 things about the candidate other than more food stamps and welfair go to them if they vote democrat.
In most maps Romney and Obama not withstanding but presidential elections the west coast and new England area are usually democratic and the northern great lake like Michigan and Wisconsin but the middle of the country is usually republican. Florida and Ohio seem to vary from election to election though.
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Post by Phil on Sept 17, 2012 13:13:36 GMT -5
I really like a post about the baseball managers. And course having actally playeteam. d professionally.
You made a good analogy Hey co ach several years later can't get away with saying thatthe previous coach built Such a terrible team. The rebuttal would simply be that what they hired you to fix this team
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Post by Alan on Sept 22, 2012 20:09:06 GMT -5
I didn't vote for Obama and I was not big on McCain either. I was mildly intrigued by Obama at first more because he didn't have a lot of political background. I did think some change was an encouraging idea.
I liked the idea he might be less programed than long standing senators or governors who are in so deep with each other they vote according to the deals they've made across the aisle. Happens all the time.
But none of what Obama has pushed for has happened except for Obama health care and there's a lot wrong with that. I am not as republican as Phil, and the rest of my family but I do think that the healthcare system should not be mandated and fines imposed if you don't buy into it.
I do not think Obama has been kind to people looking for jobs. I think he has been very kind to those who do not intend to work. There's even posters out there saying if you don't reelect Obama you may lose your food stamps. That's a terrible approach but that's to appeal to those who have given up on the hope of getting off food stamps and unemployment.
Romney does have some economic plans that make sense and seem viable. so I am not as repulsed by Obama as Phil is, I do not think he has done a good job.
I think by now had he been making good decisions some recovery would have shown itself and the democrat's lawyers wouldn't have to try to explain it to us. It would be there and we'd be able to see it.
So for that I say he has had no positive effect on things. They did get Bin Laden that's a good notch in his gun but that was a project in the making already. Still he gets credit he had the job when it happened.
But for the country over all and the impact a president has on things they've either gotten worse or not changed at all.
I think he has had enough time its better for the country if he is not reelected but I think he will be.
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Post by Kimm on Sept 29, 2012 12:23:15 GMT -5
But lke Phil said on facebook when is it enough Bush bashing? He has had four years to shape this country. Even if the work isnt done yet it should be underway. Some of what he said woudl happen should at least be started.
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Post by Phil on Oct 2, 2012 13:23:37 GMT -5
Yeah I did say that im serious. I mean It was point in this case tenure does the problem stopping George Bush's fault?
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Post by Phil on Oct 3, 2012 13:38:10 GMT -5
First debate tonight we will see what happens.
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Post by Phil on Oct 4, 2012 13:23:56 GMT -5
I would say the debate went Exactly as I expected. Obama had a very difficult time claiming how well he has done. The only thing Obama supporters are able to do at this point is question if Romney would do any better.
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Post by Classicblast on Oct 4, 2012 23:16:48 GMT -5
The polls are starting to reflect the debate too. There's a lot of angry upset democrats in the press who are trying to suggest Romney didn't discuss a plan. Obviously he did, and Obama had little or no defense for his Presidency too.
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Post by Kimm on Oct 6, 2012 11:04:05 GMT -5
No offense Phil, I feel as you do on the election, but does the debate really matter to you? Why I say that is you already knew who you were going to vote for and different outcomes of the debate wasnt going to change your vote.
It does make you feel better when your candidate debates well but you arent about to change your vote anyway.
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Post by Classicblast on Oct 7, 2012 23:59:09 GMT -5
Polls are changing. I am surprised to see this after a debate because I figured most people are decided but I guess better talking does matter.
The states that were light blue are turning gray, the states that were gray are turning light red, the states that were light red are turning dark red and some dark blue states have turned light blue in a span of just a few days.
So maybe that debate had more affect on things than I would have thought beforehand.
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Post by Phil on Oct 10, 2012 13:22:38 GMT -5
Paul Ryan and Joe Biden square off this week. Biden is the king of stupid, But in a script this situation he might not come across that way. But If Biden werent into the vice president and there for only a heartbeat away from the world's most powerful position. He would get funny.
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Post by Classicblast on Oct 12, 2012 0:22:32 GMT -5
Biden giggled like a crazyman the whole time. But he does read well when programed to.
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Post by Kimm on Oct 13, 2012 13:58:04 GMT -5
Biden giggled like a crazyman the whole time. But he does read well when programed to. When someone laughs during an argument it usually is a way to be condescending. Its done when a better response is not available so they laugh to try to weaken your point. |
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Post by Phil on Oct 15, 2012 16:37:15 GMT -5
Another debate this week. we shall see what happens.
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