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Post by Blastgirl on Nov 14, 2007 1:35:32 GMT -5
I think it's a fair way to do things.
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Post by Peon on Nov 14, 2007 1:42:26 GMT -5
Only the first option makes sense.
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Post by Phil on Nov 14, 2007 13:41:08 GMT -5
I think a flat tax is the most fair way to go.
I don't see how anybody could say that's unfair. I've heard their arguments but I can't be convinced that there's a better way that implementing a flat tax.
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Post by Demona on Nov 14, 2007 16:04:17 GMT -5
everyone pays the same? sounds fair then.
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Post by Peon on Nov 14, 2007 18:11:26 GMT -5
everyone pays the same? sounds fair then. Everyone pays the same percent, that is. Not, like, everyone pays the same amount. That wouldn't be fair.
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Post by Classicblast on Nov 14, 2007 18:12:41 GMT -5
I don't know why the flat tax hasn't been put into play already.
The larger cooperations are the ones who argue that they're operation is such that paying say 10 % To a company like General Electric or Wal-Mart there might be an argument that operating costs might not be able to afford to pay 30 billion in taxes. Even though to pay that 30 billion the company would have had to gross make 300 billion.
It's that argument that is actually holding up a flat tax.
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Post by Mahnarch on Nov 21, 2007 6:52:20 GMT -5
I agree with Classic.
10% is 10% - whether it's on $100 or $100,000,000.
The 'Fortune 500' companys are only getting richer because they only have to pay taxes on the first $200,000 they make, gross.
*** Mahnarch's Run for Presidency Soapbox:
The government, itself, doesn't need money. The money it collects in taxes goes toward funding national conveniences, basic living expenses and the people that run the offices.
That dollar amount is 'finite' - there is no 'black hole' of government spending, except what the Congress pockets.
If the rich (<$200,000) were to pay the same amount (percentage-wise), then the lower classes wouldn't have to pick up the slack.
Also, for every illegal immigrant who isn't paying taxes, there is one less person donating to that 'finite' government expense.
Remove that illegal and replace him with a taxpaying citizen, then the total dollars put into the budget 'per person' would drop.
***
Let's say, you want to go on a fishing trip.
You drive a full-sized Suburban and it takes $100 to fill the gas tank for the trip.
If you go alone, you flip the entire $100
If your friend wants to go, you share the gas and it's 50/50. Literally $50 and $50.
You add a friend and YOUR cost drops to $33.
Now, let's say one of those friends only chips in $10 (because he makes over the alotted amount) Now you split the remaining $90 between you and your other [poor] friend ($45/person +$10).
Now, you've got your rich friend chipping in $10, but another friend joins the group who puts up $30 in gas.
It's now, 30/30/30/10.
Moving back to the 'illegals' statement from early and let's remove that last $30 friend and replace him with your own 10 year old son.
Your son will be doing the 'same work' as your $30 friend but isn't expected to pay his share.
Now you're paying $45, another friend's paying $45, the rich friend's paying $10 and your freeloading son's not paying anything.
Four peple that should be paying $25 a piece, but aren't....
This is why I support the flat tax. Make your rich friends pay their share and kick your son in the butt and deliver papers if he wants to go fishing with you!.
..lousey kids, anyway.
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Post by Kimm on Nov 24, 2007 12:14:18 GMT -5
I believe in a flat tax. I also see where Mahnarch is coming from I dont think kids are lousy though. ;D
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Post by Mahnarch on Nov 24, 2007 19:19:28 GMT -5
Heh. the kids around here are, if you meet them.
Lazy bumbs. They're supposed to take out the trash but the father gets sick of it and takes it out for them and STILL pays them $20/wk.
I grew up in the wrong family, me thinks.
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Post by Blastgirl on Nov 28, 2007 1:10:11 GMT -5
I think I grew up in a Family more like Yours Mahnarch. And I think a lot of people I know grew up in the Families you're discussing.
I don't understand how many people aren't even motivated by payment. Some would rather be broke then life a finger. How does that make any sense?
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Post by Kevin on Nov 28, 2007 21:33:00 GMT -5
I don't understand how many people aren't even motivated by payment. Some would rather be broke then life a finger. How does that make any sense? Their logic: why work when I could just stay home and have taxpayers give me a check every month? Freeloaders. I'm glad I get most of my taxes back for now. EDIT: To answer the original question, I support a flat rate.
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Post by aido179 on Dec 4, 2007 17:59:05 GMT -5
personally, I think rich people should pay more percent than poor. in ireland, there is a huge gap between the rich and the poor, where the poor keep getting poorer and the rich keep getting richer. flat rate is the next best thing to communism, which I don't support. Some sort of ratio would work best. there has to be rich and poor, and enterprising, but poorness is a plight in every country.
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Post by edlin on Dec 6, 2007 0:24:31 GMT -5
Taxing a flat percentage of your income seems fair to me.
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Post by Classicblast on Dec 21, 2007 20:37:41 GMT -5
Taxing a flat percentage of your income seems fair to me. I think that's the best way to do it. But some cooperate organizations see that as them footing more of the bill that the rest of us. And they probably are but that's how a flatpercentage works.
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