Bannings

[Phil]

I don't know what's going on now but I see that Sizzlepop turned the admin over to Classicblast with the condition that Bro_c and anyone else would not be banned on account of old grudges.

Classic accepted the deal and that was that.

However Lewa is the founder of the forum and when his admin account was hyjacked that meant that there was somebody else with a say in the matter.

On 1 hand I could say that no matter how active Lewa has or hasn't been it is his forum. I could also say that with his e-mail obviously violated there is the potential for a chriminal charges. I don't know the law about e-mail but tampering with someone's mail is a federal chriminal offense.

And I realize Lewa could be more offended than everyone else for that reason.

So we have Classic not banning Bro_c because he promised Sizzlepop he wouldn't, at least not on account of his past. Lewa is the forum's founder and he never made any such deal with anyone.

I have mixed feelings but I personally would let him have a try to get back on good terms as a member and if that doesn't work it's then up to the admins to do whatever they want about that.

I think that that SlayerX and Rylan should be let back on too then.

[RadioMasterDude]

Lewa is the builder of the site so he chooses. I think that.

[Classicblast]

I say that because Lewasite is up and running I would leave everything alone.

If enough people say that Bro_C should have another chance I would be willing to discuss this with Lewa.

I know Bro_C has not really liked me and that's fine.

He is the person who deleted the posts of all of Lewasite's history. When that happend my wife and I were both banned and my name was placed in the news fodder to make it look like I was the person responsible when in fact I was not even at home during those days.

That was fixed and the site was up and running for some weeks.

A week ago Lewa's admin account was hyjacked by Bro_C who then trailed around the boards taunting the members. That's the grounds for a banning.

But I promised Sizzlepop I would not ban Bro_C or any other member because of former grudges. So I was willing to get past that.

Now I realize that Bro_C doesn't like it that I am an administrator. I have been told that some others are concerned if I can be active with the baseball season just 10 days away. Those are fair concerns.

I will be active most of the time even though baseball will make it tough. I have a new Laptop that doesn't demand a dial up so there are many chances to lurk in and I have my wife as back up.

So once again: I promised Sizzlepop that I would not ban anyone because of former grudges so I haven't . Lewa's concerns do deserve some respect, too.

So I'd be willing to discuss this with Lewa if the members want him back.

I personally can get past any of Bro_C's dislike for me. And even if he was let back in and he still didn't like me, as long as he was respectful to the members I would let him back on.

But not before I talk privately to Lewa.

PS for anyone who is wondering, I voted that it doesn't matter to me because things are up and running.

If the members want Bro_C to have another chance and Lewa accepts that I'd be happy to unlock his ban.

For those keeping score Phil and I have both voted. I just told you how I voted, and I'm not sure how Phil did but I see that at the moment nobody has voted not to let him back on. So if that has any value. Phil and I are the two people Bro has disliked the most and neither of us have voted.

[Blastgirl]

I have not voted yet because I don't know what to vote. I can see a reason to see any of the choices that are here.

Sizzlepop wanted to give him another chance but Sizzle is not interested in Moderating this board any longer.

I think we all remember how upsetting it was when the boards were deleted. I was unhappy I actually cried. That was very upsetting to me.

And he tried to make my Husband look like the bad guy but most Members didn't buy it and the truth was revealed. I had to make another account and go to my Parents' house to log on with a different computer.

BroC was banned for that but last week he got himself on how ever he did it. (And I don't need to know how he got the control but he did.)

I was a little afraid the boards were going to disappear again. That didn't happen but it was kind of like a guy showing a gun to the Members in a metaphoric way.

Granted he didn't shoot anybody but that still makes me understand why lewa feels the way he does.

I'm more upset about what BroC has done here than Classic is. But I didn't vote yet because I don't know which of those actually describes how I feel.

[Vanilla Ice]

The only reason bro_c (not Brock) got the account was because everyone was freaking out.

He planned to show that he had the account. Waited until you guys showed public concern, then return the account.

He did just that. He didn't threaten anyone with it, it's kind of hard to threaten with a pencil and eraser.

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I also find it interesting how blastgirl, someone who hardly showed herself before the "crisis" has taken this extreme interest in LS.

I understand being here because something of interest took place and to help out, but considering your viewpoints on bro_c (the ones where you know why he did everything, and the ones where you know exactly how he hates your husband) it seems your here purely because you must know if bro_c has yet again done something horrible.

In no way does a guy showing a gun to the members make sense. If I where to show a gun to someone, it'd be to impress them. Here I assume you meant "pointed" a gun, because in any other way presenting items to people is highly unalarming. In summary; your metaphore fails because it in no way depicts what happened, or what was meant to happen.

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Why the hell do you have admin, you came screaming back to a site that I know you weren't posting more than twice a month at the first sign of crises, cry, make a string of biased untruths presented as fact but in truth where only the light in which you assumed had happened, coincidentally be married to an admin, then become one.

[Nitro God]

I am a new member so I don't know much about this, however reading there is something I do know. TMTD you just went on about something which could have been said in one line. So I will now go on with myself about this on the next reply. Enjoy.

[Nitro God]

Well you see I have read the options of the poll and well I must say I have many views on them. I agree with a lot of them and I think that Bro_C should be given one last chance, his rep it ruined on here anyway.

I can see why people have voted what they have voted, but overall I feel he should just be left like what Classic said. Now I wouldn't want to ramble on but I will anyway.

Mrs Blast has taken more of an intrest to the website and this is bad how? There are more replys and more conversations, but who cares lets just have a random go at Mrs Blast, why? Maybe its because you hacked on the board, you and Bro_C yet somehow your still on this. You don't like Classic because your jealous of him.

[Phil]

TMTD and Bro_c had never gotten along with Classic.

That doesn't matter all that much.

Classic and Lewa were friends from another forum. Classic messaged me, Sizzlepop and I don't know who else but there were more people and got them to join this forum. His presentation to me at least, and I assume to the others, was that there is a new forum and it needs traffic.

I joined. I enjoyed it and participated.
I think it stands to reason that he would get his wife to join if the idea is to have more members with different input.

What does matter is that Classic said numerous times he would like to become the administration if Sizzlepop gave that job up. Classicblast put in for that months ago when other people said they were leaving.

Sizzlepop decided that he was ready to step aside. He made Classic the administration.

The only thing is it's not autumn right now it's spring and he is a professional baseball player.

If you don't follow sports baseball teams play almost everyday. So we are probably all aware that the 1st 2 summers of this forum 2004 and 2005 we didn't see a whole lot of Classic. Half of his 162 games are played away from home too. So there's another factor.

So with a forum that has had a crisis. Hacking, hyjacking...call it whatever you want there were a couple of problems.

So I can't blame Classic for not trusting people so easy. The problems that took place were a result of misplaced trust.

I might get told I don't know what the hell I'm talking about and I might not know all the details but the important factors are misplaced trust got the forum's threads deleted in the 1st place, and made for last week's concerns.

Somebody might show up with $50 and $100 words to tell me how wrong I am and how little I know about the situation but that doesn't matter the bottom line is someone took advantage of trust and did what they should not have been doing. That was deleting the threads and having unauthorized use of the admin account.

In the military you can be shot for impersonating an officer.

So with Classic not always being able to log in everyday because baseball season is on the way he had wanted his wife to watch the forum for him. And with the problems that have arisen as of late trusting others might not be as easy as usual.

So his wife is probably the only member he knows personally so why not put her in that positon?

That makes perfect sense to anyone who would follow the sequence of events and not just be spoiling for an argument.

[Classicblast]

Yes, Phil is right those are my reasons. I do trust my wife and there are even limits to that. (chuckle and tongue in cheek there).

All right.

Bro_C gets a fresh start. So does SlayerX and some other people who had been banned.

This is a fresh start and I have no hard feelings about former grudges lets make sure there are no future grudges.

In otherwords you're back in don't muck it up.

[sasukeandnarutorock]

Thanks Classic.

I personally can get past any of Bro_C's dislike for me. And even if he was let back in and he still didn't like me, as long as he was respectful to the members I would let him back on.

I don't really have a problem with you. I used to hate every person that had registered at this forum. That was a while ago.

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BroC was banned for that but last week he got himself on how ever he did it. (And I don't need to know how he got the control but he did.)

Blastgirl, no, I was never banned for deleting the threads. I had just chosen not to come back since.

I never hacked cubed05. cubed05 willingly gave me his account. To be honest, a few of you would be very surprised to see some of the things he had to say about you back on our hidden forum.

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phil said:

I could also say that with his e-mail obviously violated there is the potential for a chriminal charges. I don't know the law about e-mail but tampering with someone's mail is a federal chriminal offense.

It's not the same for e-mail as it is in real life.

I never went into his e-mail account. Just his legoman.proboards18.com admin account. The account that was used in creating this forum; the one that has the most power out of all of the accounts here.

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nobodyc (or " mister_nothing" as you seem to call yourself. What is this, your 4th or 5th internet persona?) understand that if I had never even gotten into either of the two staff accounts that I had, you would still be banned here. Also, we never hacked your forum. It's not our fault you gave most of us admin positions there. We did (word that is not allowed in lewasite)it up, but we never did any hacking.

[Classicblast]

So we agree to get beyond former grudges and post from here.

[Blastgirl]

Not entirely true TMTD.

Lewasite shows one thirty four on the Member count, but it was at one time around two-Sixty.

I have the sixteenth most posts of all of the Members. (776 I think)

So a site that is twenty-eight months old, I guess I posted more than twice a month unless I posted at least seven hundred times in three weeks and I doubt that.

Classic and I do share a computer even though there is more than one in the house we don't usually each come to Lewasite at once. So when he is home somedays I don't go to his sites because by then it would be far enough into the night I would prefer to go to bed.

But I got more active again here before his Februaly 23 departure date to go to Ft Myers.

And yes you're right the crisis made me more interested. And Phil is right Classic placed me at that position because he knows what to expect.

That's as much as I care to get into. As for the rest of your post that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

To speculate that I'm here "Purely to see if BroC did anything else that was horible." Is a biased untruth presented as fact statement on your part.

And posting with a high vocabulary doesn't necessarily mean you're right, either. Good night.

[Phil]

classicblast said:

So we agree to get beyond former grudges and post from here.

This is a great thing.

The polls and votes were inconclusive but we got a solution anyway.

[Vanilla Ice]

I know you have a high post count, but your activity was very low before the incident.

Also, this is the fourth time this week someone has commented on my English, the second time where apparently how I used the language itself (not it's meaning) made someone feel intimidated enough to comment on it in a negative fashion.

Yes Blastgirl, I am under the illusion that if my words are bigger than yours that I win. Maybe I don't use big words in a masturbatory fashion in which you seem to believe. Maybe I use big words because I know and understand them.

I disclose not that in reality vocabulary consisting of "unalarming*" and "extreme" be of an articulate nature.

[Blastgirl]

tmtd said:

this is the fourth time this week someone has commented on my English, the second time where apparently how I used the language itself (not it's meaning) made someone feel intimidated enough to comment on it in a negative fashion.

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There's a perfect example of a biased untruth pesented as fact.

I am not intimidated by your delusions of granduer presented through a vocabulary. I'm not impressed by it either.

The only importance of this post is to make that clear to you, you need not read into it and draw some other ideas from it. I really don't care about the rest of this conversation right now. An agreement has been made and that's all that matters at the moment.

[Vanilla Ice]

tmtd said:

apparently

That single word derails your statement that I presented anything as fact.

Fortunately, I made sure that I described the effect with a word that can only be made with perception and therefore opinion.

[Blastgirl]

OoooKayyy

[Vanilla Ice]

Woooooaaaahhh duuude! I can see the air!

right oooon

PS You (Word used that is not allowed in this board)ing pointed it out. I just wanted to make sure you fully understood what was happening.