12 years later.

[Phil]

When I was growing up adults sometimes asked each other if they were born at the time of Pearl Harbor and if so where were you and what were you doing when it happened?

Not all the adults could answer that but they could answer where they were when President Kennedy was shot

Again I wasn't born for that either.

I do however remember where I was on Tuesday September 11, 2001.

I was in the works of a double shift and an announcement came that all hands needed to meet at a central location so we all packed our gear got into a truck and I drove our crew to that central location.

Then the announcement was made that an airplane had hit the twin towers and that a 2nd plane had just hit the other tower, a 3rd plane had crashed into the pentagon and a 4th had been crashed in a field in Shanklsfield, Pa *about 150 miles south of where I live*

And that railroad traffic was going to be stopped until further notice as all of these regulated things would be under investigation.

I was 30 at that time. Jason was only 4 and our other children were not yet born.

I know I will never forget that day.

[Beangirl]

No we will never forget.

[Classicblast]

I don't see how we can forget but it was the topic of a radio program I was listening to at work that asks if people are still concerned about 9/11

The host mentions that younger people between 15 and 22 remember it but didn't get the full impact of it and now time marches on.

I am not sure what to make of that but I suppose there is some merit to that theory. Like Phil said I also wasn't born when Kennedy was shot or anything so the marked anniversary for it doesn't have the same meaning it did to my parents.

While my family is republican my father especially but my mother too were still fans of Kennedy, Truman and FDR. The LBJ era moved them back to GOP. They have told me this not that I would remember that.

My sons are going to be 6 and soon to be 9. They didn't experience it even though Blastgirl and I have done what we can to explain what happened they didn't actually live thought it and experience how we felt as a country. So the radio host had a point.

We observe anniversaries of historic dates too but we didn't live them.

[Phil]

As I have said a few times most of our regular crew is on an assignment in Kansas City and will probably be there another 6 weeks or so. That has me as the only veteran Penn York crew member on 3rd shift and therefore I am mostly working with guys between 18 and 22. And you're right they were all kids when they saw 9/11 happen. While they do remember it the power if it may not be as heavy to them as it was to me and the others in our age group.

This could be the start of World War 3 was something that crossed my mind. And still does at moments.

Also that to me showed something most people who downgrade George W Bush will never agree about but to me what seemed to be our darkest hour in American history, *granted I didn't live through World War 2, the Great Depression or the Kennedy assassination* It was the darkest hour in my lifetime for sure and possibly ever. And we as a nation needed strong decisive leadership and in my view we got exactly that from George W Bush.

And we have a similar situation to Classic, my daughter is only 6 and Eric is 10 so neither lived through 9/11/01 and Jason remembers it but he was 4.

As time progresses people forget facts, details and the meaning of things I don't doubt that.

Last night 1 of the guys at work actually asked if the flags were half lowered for 9/11. He noticed they were half lowered, and assumed that was probably the reason but wasn't confident enough that he didn't have to ask.

[Phil]

I shot this video 4 years ago.

[Kimm]

I know you usually wear a hat, Phil but you have very nice hair.

Also you make a good point we never should forget. Youre partially correct though about young people not remembering it as we do or even at all. My students are largely the junior class and most of them remember it vaguely and they were in pre-school at the time.

[Phil]

Thanks. I'm just a hat gut I guess. The other day there was a shooting, and had there not been a responsible licensed carrier,it would have been even more tragic.

[Classicblast]

If I have the right thing in mind, you're talking about the Naval base shooting?

There should be no restriction on service men and women carrying firearms.

[Phil]

Sept 18, 2013 23:46:59 GMT -5 Classicblast said:

If I have the right thing in mind, you're talking about the Naval base shooting?

There should be no restriction on service men and women carrying firearms.

That is what I meant, and its again being made a gun issue.

[Blastgirl]

I don't think we have forgotten or that we ever can, but I do think we have a need as people to move on not get over but live beyond such things. Like death of Family or close Friends. You can never forget them. But at some stage you find a way to embrace new days and new times. I think its more along those lines. Time does soften wounds but not cure necessarily. When you have a scar your wound has closed and the flesh is healed but the scar kind of proves that you're not entirely the same as you were before. I think it's a little bit like that.

[Phil]

That's a good point.

[Phil]

I am bumping this because we are now at the 13th anniversary. Now we have a new nemesis called ISIS an extremist knock off of Al-Quida and supposedly more aggressive. If they're not looking for political gain there wouldn't even be the small diplomacy that other terrorist extremist groups displayed. The war on terror has not ended and a new chapter is beginning.

[Classicblast]

You're right though we will never forget where we were that day or how we felt.

[fartinggurl]

I will never forget where I was that day. I was 15 and a freshman in high school. I remember walking into my 3rd period Active Physics class and seeing our teacher watching the news and hearing that two planes hit the World Trade Center and that a third plane hit the pentagon. There was no homework. Every class we all just sat in silence and watched the news.

[Classicblast]

I remember where I was too. I think most people do. Like already mentioned by some other members I also wasn't born for Pearl Harbor or when Kennedy was shot but I do remember 9/11/01.