30 days in jail for rape

[angel607]

i don't know how people become a judge and give out such a light sentence to a rapist. i'll link the story below

www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/07/judge-g-todd-baugh-sentence-stacey-rambold_n_3885563.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009


hopefully I did it right but this story just burns me up how they make excuses for the rapist when his victim took her life because of what he did. it makes me sick knowing he's getting off with a slap on the wrist. are they even going to have something when he gets out to make sure he won't rape someone else because I don't even think the guy cares about what he did. a young girl is dead because of him and he is free to live his life after serving only 30 days this feels like some kind of sick twisted joke.

[Classicblast]

I don't know really where to begin here.
I watched the news report. And obviously I agree. The judge knew he under sentenced or probably more likely he got heavy pressure from the community that he didn't sentence hard enough.

Then when the girl committed suicide, and that's so tragic. Obviously since I am 38 years old its probably easier for me no matter what happened to believe that all things cam be overcome with time. But for the there and then it wouldn't seem that way to a teenage high school girl raped by a teacher who then faces 30 days???

At the there and then it looks as if there's no justice. And there is none.

I am sure that the local community put some hard public outcry toward that judge and then he rethinks it and wants to change the sentence.

It appears by law he can't take back a decision. Not being in the legal profession I wouldn't know but I am not surprised to hear that or judges would then have the right to call cases back to trial when they have second thoughts. I see where it sets bad precedents.

I do not know if that judicial seat is an elected term or an appointed one. If its an elected term and there's uneasy feelings with the verdict that may have be a plea for a second chance. Even if the judge's attempt to bring it back to trial was denied by higher court he probably has the leg to stand on saying that he was wrong and he tried to make it right.

Too late though.

How does an obviously experienced judge think that 30 days is enough? Obviously no man raping a woman is right, but its intensified by an adult man raping a girl and its intensified further when a teacher to a student.

A teacher entrusted to hopefully shape youth during their formative years and they he does something so awful that there is nothing to say this guy should have the book thrown at him. Instead of the victim's side of things fighting for a harder sentence the judge should have given him a life sentence and make it his problem to try to appeal it down to a lesser one. Not the way it happened here.

[Phil]

Classic said mostly what I would have.

The judge is probably under pressure. I am not sure what court system that was. I know it happened in Montana but I don't know if that judge was county state or what jurisdiction his court covers.

I know the federal supreme court and state supreme court are appointed and they're on the bench for life. Federal and state judges not supreme court caliber are elected to a 14 year term *most of the time there's no opponent too* The same person is endorsed Republican, Democrat, Conservative, Liberal.and whatever smaller parties there might be. Once in a while an no name party has a candidate when the other person has the 5 party endorsement.

That said the election is meaningless when the same person has all the party endorsements it might as well be an appointment. On top of that its a 14 year term. You get elected when you're about 35 and reelected once after that you're just about ready to retire if you want. But most stay for life anyway.

I think only municipal judges are a simple 4 year term.

I don't want to get off topic though. Its hard for me to think of something Classic didn't already say that I feel strongly about other than to reiterate that a teacher of youth abusing youth to the point of rape, that ended up leading to the girl's suicide..... how can a judge see that as a 30 day prison term?

I didn't catch if the girl killed herself before or after the 30 day sentence was placed but if after I can really see how a young girl would believe this to be a lost cause. And a judge suddenly gets a conscience or feels a need to improve his image in the court of public opinion.

But for his reputation as far as I'm concerned its already too late.

I know there's rumors that I have strong outspoken opinions but this is a case where its needed.

A judge of some season. In the clips he looks to be at least 55 years old, his age was not stated but he is no spring chicken. He has heard cases before. He has been in the law profession probably since about age 25, and he hears a rape case where a teacher, probably in his 30s but even if he was 22 *it is possible to teach that young* rapes a 15 year old girl. And this judge thinks that's a month prison term

That's like grounding my kid for 3 weekends for armed robbery.

What kind of a justice system do we create when that happens. That's worse than a not guilty verdict. In a not guilty verdict you may be angry because there seems to be evidence that the defendant is guilty but at least a not guilty verdict was a result of not proving he was the perpetrator. Here they know he IS guilty and the sentence was 30 days.

Then the judge either gets a conscience or pressure from public opinion and wants to re-sentence? TOO LATE!

I think by law that's all they can give this guy. If I know the law correctly and I am by no means a lawyer, but I think they can't try him for the same infraction twice. The girl's family can bring a civil case against him.

And the state supreme court can punish this judge by suspending him for a time if they deem his decision to be a serious blunder. But that is tough too, they can also argue he did sentence a criminal found guilty to prison. I don't know what happens next but there's no justice right now.

[angel607]

they were saying the girl looked older then she was. I was attacked once and had to fight a guy off and it destroyed me for a year. it happened at a fair by a employee on break and even though I was screaming not one person cared to come by and help. I would cut my wrists to stop the pain when the flashbacks replayed over and over in my head and just stop the crying. I wish the judge could feel the hell what a rape victim feels then maybe they would realize 30 days is nowhere near enough. it just burns me up because many times they make excuses for these rapists like they did with those teens at Steubenville ohio. saying their futures will be destroyed and they were good kids. it made me sick to have to listen to that. and when they had the group annoyomus who threatened to expose those rapists they wanted to cover the crime up. luckily the group brought those rapists to justice even if it was only 2 years. I also worry a lot what happens when this guy is released and hurts someone else.

[Classicblast]

That scum in Ohio was smart enough to kill himself though. Obviously I don't like to look at things that way but I have to here.

And there was no justice served in this situation of this topic.

[Beangirl]

Sept 9, 2013 23:44:40 GMT -5 Classicblast said:

That scum in Ohio was smart enough to kill himself though. Obviously I don't like to look at things that way but I have to here.

And there was no justice served in this situation of this topic.

The"jerk" in Ohio was a total coward. He could not dish out what he took from his victims. He was a weak pathetic A-hole. Men who prey on women and children are not real men they are cowards.

[Phil]

Sept 10, 2013 6:51:37 GMT -5 Beangirl said:

Sept 9, 2013 23:44:40 GMT -5 Classicblast said:

That scum in Ohio was smart enough to kill himself though. Obviously I don't like to look at things that way but I have to here.

And there was no justice served in this situation of this topic.

The"jerk" in Ohio was a total coward. He could not dish out what he took from his victims. He was a weak pathetic A-hole. Men who prey on women and children are not real men they are cowards.

I couldn't agree more but at least he isn't going to tie up time and money in the justice system for a trial he really doesn't deserve but has a legal right and obligation to.

Then in a highly publicized case like this a lawyer doesn't make him somewhat a hero and a different kind of a victim. I am glad that isn't going to happen. The notorious defendant is often made a victim of sorts and I hate to see that happen. I know its not very Christian of me to say this but good riddance to bad rubbish.

[Kimm]

I cant get over this 30 days for rape. What are we coming to as a society?

[Phil]

Our priorities in this country have changed and not for the better.