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Post by Nitro God on Feb 7, 2012 21:27:57 GMT -5
I wasn't going to post this in the news section for the sake of actually giving it some purpose but was afraid all 6 people of this site might not catch it. Lewa and I have exchanged email addresses and speak regularly. I speak to him occasionally. He always use to wish me happy birthday and i'd always come back to this site to visit as a result, recently I stuck around a little longer because he asked me to delete this site. I didn't feel as though it was my place to do so especially he no longer used the site. I asked him why he wouldn't do it and he said he couldn't get on and he didn't want to let anyone down. However I have known a lot of members here for a lot of years and felt as though I couldn't do it either.
Lewa has told me he will be deleting the site in a few days. He wanted me to tell you so that you can exchange contacts and create an alternative proboards/site or whatever so you can keep in contact. Obviously some members will be lost in the shuffle and this will be the demise of the farts.com/lewasite community. Farts.com died a long while ago and so did lewasite, it had to be this way eventually. Lewa says thanks for keeping the site active and he's sorry it had to be this way. But it always had to be this way.
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Post by Jersey on Feb 7, 2012 22:02:54 GMT -5
*whew*
Ok. I'm going to try and do this as gently as I possibly can because I know I have made quite a name for myself tearing people down on here either when they step out of line and/or cause trouble. In essence, I'm going to try and keep my temper under control.
Have you come back here to cause trouble? Seriously? Because after this latest post of yours, once again advocating for and "giving advance notice" that the website should be and subsequently will be shut down, you've developed quite the interesting pattern. You've said that Lewasite should be torn down and shuttered due to supposed "lack of discussion". If that is your opinion, so be it. Fine. I couldn't care less and I sincerely doubt any of the other members would care either.
But now you're telling us that Lewa, who is much beloved and well-liked by all of the membership here, has officially given you permission to shut down the site in his stead because he cannot get on, and had decided before hand that it should be deleted because it isn't the same kind of forum it was back in the old days?
Do you really expect me to believe that? Or anyone else for that matter?
I must insist on calling that nonsense, to the point of saying bullcrap. I simply don't believe you.
If Lewa had truly wanted to shut this site down without any advanced notification, cause, or reason supporting thereof, I would like to think he would be man enough to find a way to get in touch with one of the Administrators here and let them know what he was considering. I'd like to think that he would then ask us as a group what we thought on it, and if we came to an agreement in a semi-democratic vote or something or other we would then proceed accordingly.
It doesn't sound like Lewa would do anything remotely resembling what you are suggesting in your post. Simply doesn't sound like him at all. I honestly don't feel that he would even go so far as to suggest it, since it goes against everything that he originally founded this forum for in the first place.
Besides, I checked your profile and your rank. You are not an Administrator. You are not even a Moderator (from what I could see). Therefore, you do not have the power and ability to do what you're saying that you're going to do. Through your own profile at least. Perhaps Lewa gave you the keys to an Administrator account that I'm not aware of? Maybe. But...how would he have the ability to do that if he himself "could not log in to the forum" to discuss this matter with us personally?
I don't think it takes a lot of brains to see the issue with that...
I don't think the REAL purpose of your post is hard to figure out if one simply takes a look at your recent post history. You've said repeatedly that the forum should be closed down due to lack of membership. You've received gentle rebuttals from the rest of us, in the form of immediate responses hours later (not days or weeks...indicates active membership), and a post from me indicating the number of members who visited the site in a 24 hour period (somewhere in the 130s).
Aside from that, you've cited the well-known fact that arguments and conflict draws in new members. It may be hard to believe, but I hate arguing on here or anywhere. I prefer not to participate in it, unless it involves me directly or if I'm attacked or if another memb is attacked. Which is when I step forward as an Administrator to handle the situation, as I am now. Yes, arguments and conflict promotes a certain kind of discussion. But not a good kind. Arguing, fighting, and flame wars put a forum in decline even faster if you ask me.
Which brings me to my main point. I think you made this post to cause a fight amongst you and the membership here, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if certain members who haven't posted in over a year (but have actively logged in...yes, I've seen you) decide to jump in the fray in your defense. You are starting an argument, and citing your previously stated point that the forum lacks discussion and should be shut down to ignite it. Since you know it isn't going to make members here very happy.
That's all I have to say now. If there is any truth to what you're saying, Lewa should find a way to get in touch with me or another Administrator and say so himself.
If you're telling the truth, simply put me or Classic in touch with Lewa. Now.
That's all I have to say for now. Now it's up to you to prove it to us you aren't lying.
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Post by angel607 on Feb 8, 2012 0:39:01 GMT -5
i really hope this site is not shutting down. from what I have seen there have been many active members posting discussions and it has been going really well. it's a great place to talk to people. I usually get on here at night and post as often as I can. I really hope lewasite is here to stay forever.
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Post by Classicblast on Feb 8, 2012 0:42:56 GMT -5
I would like to congratulate Notro God in his efforts to bring controversy to the boards. That is what you have been looking to do. Since you seem bored that the boards haven't had more activity to discuss and that you are hoping to raise the hair of the members and concern.
Also Happy belated Birthday I guess it was Friday and you have turned 19. Your profile has a different day for your birthday than what your lewasite profile says. I am the admin I see all.
I am really surprised that Lewa would wish you a happy birthday.
He is a very nice guy and all, but he is a Jehovah's Witness. I am not saying that's a bad thing, but Witnesses do not recognize birthdays. So I have to be a bit doubtful he would acknowledge your birthday. But I am glad you are still friends and in communication just the same.
Have no fear about the forum though Nitro. When the site was paralyzed in 2006 I contacted a proboards admin board and purchased the security catch. It charges $5 a month to my credit card to lock the security in place.
This way if anything similar to what happened in 2006 took place again I could have the boards reset to its condition of 24 hours beforehand. Only posts of that day would be lost.
Most people don't buy into the security option because there's a charge but I did because it was in expensive and I didn't want to go through the trouble again.
But thanks for the heads up. I hope we don't have to activate a recharge because that would disable it for at least 1o to 12 hours.
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Post by angel607 on Feb 8, 2012 0:57:06 GMT -5
very happy to hear it's staying. I was a little worried there.
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Post by Classicblast on Feb 8, 2012 1:23:09 GMT -5
I do appreciate the heads up though. I wouldn't want there to be a hassle in getting this taken care of though.
Obviously it is important to me. I am glad that it is to some other people as well.
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Post by Mahnarch on Feb 8, 2012 2:44:59 GMT -5
Jersey said:
You can thank me for that.
Several months ago, I'd noticed that he (and several others) hadn't logged in for months/years and I stripped them of their mod/admin positions - just in case something like this happened.
I did NOT remove Lewa's title, however. So, unless he, himself, decided that the end was nigh, it would be as such.
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Post by Jersey on Feb 8, 2012 7:16:29 GMT -5
Classic, it's a great thing to know that you've purchased that option with pro boards. I honestly never knew something like that existed. And the fact that you went ahead and bought it, however inexpensive or expensive (these days every dollar counts) shows that you really care for Lewasite.
The place may be different than what a bunch of the older membership may remember or even prefer in terms of subject matter, but it is pretty clear that this little corner of the internet is still puttering along just fine.
Mahnarch, that was a smart move. I'll admit I wasn't really that worried about it since none of the departed members had the keys to an Administrative account, but even the ability to edit posts or move stuff around and/or make a big mess should be considered an issue as well.
I suppose that the bottom line here is that Lewa doesn't really have sole ownership of the boards anymore. He may be the founder, and will always be respected as such, but I feel that when he handed the key to Lewasite over to Classic he mostly gave up that responsibility. So, the site belongs to Classic now. Especially because he's paying for it. And that should make any member hanging around feel pretty good.
In the end, it simply isn't your call. Never was. Isn't Lewa's either, although I don't think he played a part in this scenario. He'll always have a respected opinion around here as the founder, but Classic is the leader and remains in that position.
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Post by Kimm on Feb 8, 2012 22:32:53 GMT -5
. Isn't Lewa's either, although I don't think he played a part in this scenario. He'll always have a respected opinion around here as the founder, but Classic is the leader and remains in that position. My thoughts exactly Jersey.
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Post by Mahnarch on Feb 9, 2012 3:14:48 GMT -5
I see Lewa as a slightly newer version of George Washington: He's the father of a forum/nation but, he did eventually hand that forum/nation off to a greater peoples.
Now, if only he'd penned a Second Amendment where we could shoot offending members [shoot them in cyberspace, only, of course].
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