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Post by angel607 on Nov 15, 2011 11:50:45 GMT -5
CINCINNATI – Authorities in the U.S. have charged a 13-year-old boy with raping a 5-year-old girl at a McDonald's play area. The Hamilton County sheriff's office in Ohio said Monday that the alleged assault occurred Oct. 29. Sheriff's spokesman Steve Barnett says the girl's grandmother was in the restaurant at the time. The owner of the McDonald's says in a statement that he was upset to learn of the situation. Owner Judson Pickard says he is cooperating with investigators. Barnett says the boy's parents brought him to the sheriff's office last week after authorities released a security camera photo of the suspect. Barnett says the boy was taken to a juvenile detention center. Messages were left Monday for juvenile court officials. Read more: www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/14/teenager-charged-with-raping-5-year-old-at-mcdonalds/?icid=maing-grid10|htmlws-main-bb|dl1|sec3_lnk2|112587#ixzz1dnEp4yGni pasted the story as best as I could from above. that's really sad that a young child was raped at a mcdonalds. what I don't get is how did nobody see this or stop this? a 5 year old I would think needs to be watched and supervised even in a play area in case they got hurt. for a 13 year old to start off so young like that is discusting.
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Post by Mahnarch on Nov 15, 2011 14:25:19 GMT -5
This is disturbing. And, of course, since he is a minor his record and name will be sealed.
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Post by Phil on Nov 15, 2011 14:26:18 GMT -5
It keeps getting worse. I think in a case like this the kid should be tried like an adult.
A 13 year old certainly knows what he's going at that point and knows the difference between right and wrong.
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Post by Classicblast on Nov 16, 2011 1:22:43 GMT -5
Oh no. I am sickened by this story. And the lawyers will hold that McDonalds accountable. Perhaps not since there were cameras and they did catch him that way but how this happened. How was a five year old unsupervised in a playland of McDonalds long enough for this to happen anyway?
Obviously we don't know all the details but the kids are brought to McDonalds by someone. Ok, if its a neighborhood McDonalds some kids as old as 13 would be old enough to go there on their bikes or walk not necessarily be accompanied by adults but that still leaves who was with the five year old?
Ok I suppose you should be able to let your child go on the slide long enough to order a big mac but again how does time get lost enough for that to happen? I can't believe it.
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Post by Jersey on Nov 16, 2011 10:30:50 GMT -5
Here is a picture of what the sex offender registry looks like for Cincinatti. 1,193 offenders with over 200 non-mappable offenders. All the little yellow squares are rapes. All the little red squares are attacks on children. Obviously, sexual assault is part of the culture of Cincinatti just like it is in most inner cities. You ought to see the one for New York City... it's like Walt Disney threw up... This kid was more than likely very sexually active at that age, so as it is this story doesn't really surprise me. Considering the widespread appearances of sexual offenders, it seems someone simply started early. I hope they throw the book at him and place him on this list as well. And the grandmother bears a large portion of the blame too because she failed to protect her granddaughter. Attachments:
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Post by Phil on Nov 16, 2011 14:30:52 GMT -5
That's a shocking picture of the Cincinnati metropolitan area.
Perhaps its all large cities but until this comes up we tend not to think of this. I know when a registered sex offender takes residency there's a bulletin in the mail that tells you of what dates and what offenses this person has been guilty of. And what street and town he has moved to.
We have a scumbum living on Cummings street. In 1999 he raped 3 12 year old girls over a course of a few months. It was probably more that's how many came forward. Actually I think 1 reported him then other 2 came forward while he was being tried. What a repulsive scum. If I lived on Cummings street I'd be up in arms but there's not much you can do. or anything that can be done to stop them from moving to a neighborhood.
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Post by angel607 on Nov 17, 2011 20:09:24 GMT -5
i agree jersey the grandmother should of never left a five year old on her own for so long. I don't know how anything like that happened without security catching it on the camera. there must of been kids in the area that could of run for help. it's sad because rape does alot of damage and what that 13 year old did was discusting. what makes me mad is many people who commit crimes try to get people to feel sorry for them trying to say they had a rough childhood. well that doesn't give you a free pass to commit crimes and hurt people. and phil that's horrible that guy raped those 12 year olds. I hope he is living in jail and not on that street. I don't even know what goes on in someone's head they can just take someone by force. what a low life.
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Post by Phil on Nov 28, 2011 14:28:30 GMT -5
I don't like to come over as provincial but some of these stories like this happen in what most of society dubs a dangerous neighborhood. Oh sure I realize that bad things happen to everybody and in all neighborhoods but most stories like this happen in whats said undesirable. The neighborhoods where Penn York posts security guards if my shift has to work in those areas.
If anything positive is to be said here its good that surveillance is around and prevalent. Its to the point that train stations, quick stores, restaurants, you're never off camera when you enter a public place. On 1 hand it makes our society less free as more big brother is in our life. But it also helps us catch perpetrators in situations like this too.
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Post by Beangirl on Nov 29, 2011 19:15:02 GMT -5
On Monday night our people greeter watches as a toddler ran passed her out the front door and on the way to the street. She grabbed him and said " Oh Jesus Christ" where are your parents?" A lady over heard her say Jesus Christ and went straight to the manager! She was told you cannot say Jesus or touch the kid.Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
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Post by Classicblast on Nov 30, 2011 0:24:03 GMT -5
On Monday night our people greeter watches as a toddler ran passed her out the front door and on the way to the street. She grabbed him and said " Oh Jesus Christ" where are your parents?" A lady over heard her say Jesus Christ and went straight to the manager! She was told you cannot say Jesus or touch the kid.Damned if you do and damned if you don't. .... and even if you save a child from at very least getting separated from his parents, or worse bring injured or worst of all being killed they can't look the other way for a door greeter doing her job and having a human emotion? Where are our priorities today? So say nothing at all and don't touch the children and if he is abducted, hit by a car or at the very least making his parents frantic as they look for him and when the door greater is asked "Why didn't you stop this child from going outside when you can see he was not with his parents?" Is she supposed to smile and say "I'm not allowed to stop the children here" I think they should be thankful someone still cares. I have two little boys and I certainly would rather see someone who is on the ball if Blastgirl or myself has a moment of laps in our parental responsibilities.
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Post by Phil on Nov 30, 2011 13:24:05 GMT -5
Beangirl that reminds me of a few years ago in New York City a school monitor tackled a kid and took the gun from under his coat and the school board took measures against this monitor saying he had no right to tackle the student. If there was any logic to that in concept once the gun was found all bets should have been off.
But what do I know? Like Photo412 said a few years ago I'm just a night shift railroad maintenance worker.
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Post by Beangirl on Dec 1, 2011 8:39:39 GMT -5
Beangirl that reminds me of a few years ago in New York City a school monitor tackled a kid and took the gun from under his coat and the school board took measures against this monitor saying he had no right to tackle the student. If there was any logic to that in concept once the gun was found all bets should have been off. But what do I know? Like Photo412 said a few years ago I'm just a night shift railroad maintenance worker. You are a good man, good husband ,good friend and a wonderful father.That is the truth. ;D
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Post by Phil on Dec 1, 2011 14:11:41 GMT -5
Beangirl that reminds me of a few years ago in New York City a school monitor tackled a kid and took the gun from under his coat and the school board took measures against this monitor saying he had no right to tackle the student. If there was any logic to that in concept once the gun was found all bets should have been off. But what do I know? Like Photo412 said a few years ago I'm just a night shift railroad maintenance worker. You are a good man, good husband ,good friend and a wonderful father.That is the truth. ;D Thank you that really means a lot.
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Post by angel607 on Dec 2, 2011 1:19:57 GMT -5
phil the school moniter should of got a medal for being a hero. they acted in the safety of others and risked their own life. the person who had the gun would of probaly shot the place up if they didn't get tackled then so many people would of been hurt and possibly killed. and beangirl the door greeter saved the childs life I can't believe they were treated so badly. they saved the child from getting hit by a car. maybe this is why when bad things happen some people just look away and won't help.
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Post by Phil on Dec 2, 2011 14:41:21 GMT -5
phil the school moniter should of got a medal for being a hero. they acted in the safety of others and risked their own life. the person who had the gun would of probaly shot the place up if they didn't get tackled then so many people would of been hurt and possibly killed. and beangirl the door greeter saved the childs life I can't believe they were treated so badly. they saved the child from getting hit by a car. maybe this is why when bad things happen some people just look away and won't help. Exactly you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. I think you just have to do it and deal with the results later. If I were the door greater or the school monitor I'd have done the same thing those people did. How the hell could I live with myself if something happened, I knew it was going to happen and I did nothing to stop it? If you're that door greater and you take a 'not my kid' attitude and the child is hit by a car how would you sleep at night? That would burden you for the rest of your life and you don't need that blood on your hands. The missing children reports are full of kids who wandered off for a moment and haven't been seen since. As for the school monitor and door greater most people know they did the right thing and once these stories get public knowledge they would get another job like that because even if a panel was brain-dead the majority of the rational world knows they did the right thing.
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Post by angel607 on Dec 3, 2011 1:20:01 GMT -5
john walsh's son was in a sears store in Hollywood Flordia when he was taken and killed. this is why in retail we have a code adam whenever a child goes missing. but from what I hear employee's did not do enough. a code adam is taken more serious. things can happen in the blink of an eye and it's better to do something then nothing at all. and your right if I saw something bad and I walked away it would haunt me.
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Post by Beangirl on Dec 3, 2011 13:05:42 GMT -5
We have Code Adam too.When I was a door greeter I saw lots of little ones running towards the doors. I would go after them and say " hey buddy or sweetie, were ya going? They would usually stop and we would wait for mom or dad.No one told me I couldn't.
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