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Post by angel607 on May 13, 2011 12:38:13 GMT -5
i just read a article where a mother gave her young daughter botox and wax for beauty pagents. she then went on good morning america to tell her side. exactly what kind of example is she trying to set on her daughter? the only way to go on in life is to look like a movie star. you have to be beautiful to have people like you. but wow maybe she should hear the doctor's side and the warnings what dangers you put your child in with this kind of procedure and all the bad things that can go wrong. how many people wanted to go under the knife and lost their life. if it is for medical reasons I can understand why you may want surgery. but women who want butt implants boob implants and all this stuff is just sick. the most drastic that I know of is that hedi spencer from the hills that had 10 surgeries in 1 day. she wanted bigger boobs for movie roles. um to act you need this thing called talent. she looked 10 years older after she had the work done. people need to stop thinking about what they look like. beauty is only skin deep. for a mother to do that to her child just really discusts me. and now child welfare services is looking into the matter.
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Post by Phil on May 13, 2011 13:22:55 GMT -5
This is ridiculous I heard about it too. There's way too much pressure put on kids today in those respects. It damages the kids emotionally. They can become out of touch with what's appropriate for their age group.
At the extreme a situation like the JonBenet Ramsey case can happen. Children become the target of some sicko's desire for child porn, or kidnapping even murder.
Before we even get as extreme as that children have natural nice features don't fix their ears or give them bot-ox or put them on crazy diets for glamor its just wrong.
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Post by angel607 on May 13, 2011 21:09:40 GMT -5
i agree. I am 31 and would never dream of getting botox. now she is in trouble for what she did. let kids be kids we don't want them growing up to soon. at eight years old they don't need that kind of stuff. I do think it's really sad what happened to JonBenet Ramsey. she lost her life way to soon. she was also in pagents under that stress. I don't know what's wrong with parent's to think this is okay on putting poison into young kids. that's all I think botox is. it's really sad and needs to stop.
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Post by Classicblast on May 13, 2011 23:37:02 GMT -5
When you think people don't get any stupider. I do know how it goes thogh. I have seen how hard some kids are pushed in baseball that their parents push them hard to get that scholarship to do whatever. Sometimes parents delay or go delinquent on household bills to get their kid in a tournament that might hopefully get them into a school or program.
It happens a lot. It's the same kind of thing. I have to say I was never forced to do that. I was encouraged my inspiration was largely my 2 brothers but I pushed myself I was not made to do that for anybody elses gain but my own.
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Post by Kimm on May 14, 2011 17:52:17 GMT -5
Parents are getting so they want to vicariously accomplish things through their kids. They put it all on the kid to go further than they did.
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Post by Blix on May 14, 2011 19:52:07 GMT -5
Angel: That's the exact reason why I sometimes become rather misanthropic. I can't stand the thought that we (us rational humans) belong to the same species as these shallow, dumb (I say dumb because they obviously don't realize what they do to their children) people!
Giving children goals and following up on them is one thing - but those extremes are horrible... I was always pushed a bit when it comes to the music, but it was the encouraging kind - not the dominant kind. I can't imagine how I would turn out if I had been pushed to keep playing the piano (for instance) after I got sick of it. Much less if that had the same kind of influence over my physical appearance as plastic surgery does!
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Post by Classicblast on May 16, 2011 0:01:00 GMT -5
Giving children goals is perfectly normal. Trying to make it so they're not the kid but a source of income is completely stupid. I might drive over to where they live and slap these people because I believe somebody should.
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Post by Phil on May 16, 2011 14:08:55 GMT -5
It goes on everywhere though. That happens to be a case where the parents had the money to send the girl in for botox and it got the publicity. I remember coaching or just watching some of Jason's rollerhockey games and dads who coach are shouting at referees, players and all this business. I'm like I hope the kids still get a hot meal if they don't win the game. That prick probably makes them run laps and go without supper.
Parents looking for whatever angle they can find so their kid wins and that going to the extreme has gotten out of hand though.
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Post by angel607 on May 17, 2011 1:27:28 GMT -5
Blix I agree with you. I think it's great that you were pushed into music because that's something that's really good for you. your talent will grow with you with music.
and phil I never even knew parent's would do this to a child. botox for a child that young. in the article they talk about lots of kids go through this for beauty pagents. I read another article on the story today and learned the mother was the one that gave her child botox herself. now child protective services took the child out of the mother's house. I think if you want to enter your child in a beauty contest okay that's fine. but botox and waxing no let them be kids. I also think it's way to much pressure if your going to keep on entering your child in these kinds of contest's. there are danger's in this like stalkers when your child is exposed so much.
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Post by Classicblast on May 17, 2011 2:08:34 GMT -5
Obviously I don't want to talk above the members of the board. I really hope it doesn't come across that way but I did experience this on a more personal level I am assuming than most everybody else when I was coming through different ranks in baseball.
I am not trying to imply that the rest of you don't know as much as I do please don't think I'm hinting at that because I definitely am not.
I did witness some parents challenging managers (If you're not a baseball fan, what other sports call the coach is the manager in baseball) as to why they started someone else over their son because their son is better. I remember when I was in rookie league ball in the 1894 season a mother told our manager that her son is seeking a tryout why was he not played. The manager answered that the next two batters were lefthanded batters and therefore a change to a lefthanded pitcher was in order.
I was in high school and a kid rode the pine (the bench) for the entire tournament. He was not cooperative and was caught drinking beer in the hotel bar. (He was either not proofed or had fake ID I don't remember which one.) but in any case they caught him. The Manager and one of the coaches.
They did tell his parents and the school why he was not going to play the rest of the trip but they managed to keep it on the Q.T. If it got revealed there would have been suspension and other punishments but they managed to sweep it under the rug that way.
His father wrote a formal letter to the school administration, the athletic department and probably a few other sources that if his son misses out on a collegiate scholarship on account of being benched and therefore not noticed by scouts in this travel tournament that a lawsuit would be pending. Whats worse is this father knew why he was not played but he didn't think his son was responsible. "All kids break rules." Was the father's answer.
I don't know what finally happened but I'm reasonably sure it did not go to court. I was played minor league ball the nest season and did not live near by to follow the story at the time.
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Post by angel607 on May 17, 2011 18:18:03 GMT -5
that's sad a father would do that. kids should not be taught that rules are ment to break or that they don't apply to them. since the kid was drinking underage I hope they don't have a drinking problem. they have drinking games that could kill kids. lots of times parents don't want to think their kid has a problem until they are put in a hospital for alcohol posioning.
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Post by Classicblast on May 18, 2011 1:00:28 GMT -5
They do think that. That you should look the other way if that person has extra talent. Pad their grades let them mask drug tests any way you can. It happens all the time I've seen it hundreds of times.
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Post by Phil on May 18, 2011 13:13:38 GMT -5
Parenting is not always easy but it's not super difficult either. Ok, I know I am not always right but most times you can condition kids to do certain things and be fearful of punishment if they fail to conform. Thatnks not to say you need to bully your kids, it is to say you need to know what they are up to at all times and know when you're potentially putting them in danger. And then make sure you don't do that.
I am aware of what my kids are doing all the time. And they don't do too many things I'm not aware of. That's not to say they might not sneak in an extra cookie or something once in a while, or manage not to really brush their teeth on occasion but overall I'm pretty up on their activities.
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Post by fartinggurl on May 19, 2011 19:40:19 GMT -5
I thought that the mother giving botox to her 8 year old was ridiculous. I'm glad child protective services stepped in and took her away. There are just way too many people out there that should never have had children, and she is one of them.
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Post by fartinggurl on May 19, 2011 20:17:02 GMT -5
My parents have always encouaged me in whatever I wanted to do: swimming classes, playing piano, drawing, singing in the school choir, writing, and tap dancing classes, saying that I should do it because I want to do it, and that it is something I enjoy, not because someone forced me to do it.
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Post by Kimm on May 23, 2011 20:57:26 GMT -5
I just said to my mom "have you ever considered giving me botox?" My mom goes "No but Id love to give you gas-X."
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Post by Beangirl on May 24, 2011 13:12:59 GMT -5
I just said to my mom "have you ever considered giving me botox?" My mom goes "No but Id love to give you gas-X." LMAO! Kimm.  |
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