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Post by Antonio on Dec 17, 2008 20:11:18 GMT -5
I recently found out that they closed the case of Adam Walsh, one of saddist stories I ever heard.
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Post by fartinggurl on Dec 17, 2008 20:59:11 GMT -5
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Post by Classicblast on Dec 17, 2008 22:30:52 GMT -5
Its a shame that someone like Otis Toole should have the luxury of the justice system become a celebrity even if it is for a child murder and die in prison. I would like to give such people to Mahnarch and Phil who are good with guns and just have them dealt with that way but that's just my take.
I'm sure the Walsh's knew already who the killer was but with this confession at least there's closure this time. Adam Walsh was just my age I turned 34 last week he would have turned 34 a month ago.
I think of all the living I have done since I was 6 years old and compare that to how poor Adam has been deprived of 27 years and he would still be a young guy, how his family was deprived of him for so long, how they have to live with the fact that he was murdered in cold blood and his body dismembered.
God. The thought of something that terrible happening to one of your kids is something I can't imagine. But the Walsh family has dealt with this with a high degree of class.
Even killing somebody like Toole doesn't make for justice that wouldn't bring Adam back. It might just get rid of scum who is eating food and drinking water that is for someone who deserves to.
There's no way the Walsh family can possibly not spend parts of everyday wondering how this could have been different. Maybe if I hadn't left him at the arcade for a sale on a (?)
Maybe if I had taken him to the arcade and let him play his favorite game. Maybe if I had just said No you have to come with us maybe he would have gotten mad but he would be alive. The maybe list goes on for miles it must.
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Post by Blastgirl on Dec 18, 2008 1:25:36 GMT -5
There's nothing worse than the death of a Child. I'm not so positive that closure would console me but I suppose it's better than having neither.
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Post by Phil on Dec 18, 2008 14:07:55 GMT -5
I'm all for due process of law and the justice system but sometimes I just have to have some questions when it comes to people like Otis Toole.
How does someone like that get born? All my growing up years my mother would say 'it takes all kinds.' But how do we ever come across that kind?
This guy ends up with rights. It doesn't seem like it should be that way.
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Post by Antonio on Dec 18, 2008 20:36:15 GMT -5
I ran in too many people most gangmembers in my area some are scumbags some not so bad but a whole gang dosent add up to the evil of a single person like Otis Toole,Dahmer,Gacy,Bundy or Dennis Raider.
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Post by Classicblast on Dec 19, 2008 1:16:10 GMT -5
I can believe you on that Antonio. Gang members are generally not just there to kill.
Obviously they have altercations with law or rivals for some reason and if that does happen it's as if they've gone to war and it becomes a kill or be killed situation. There is tragic events.
However, gang members are not members of a gang just to go out and kill as a way of making themselves seem superior, to make for terror. When gangs commit acts of violence they usually have a specific target for a specific reason. While that reason might be despicable at least there is a reason you can understand while not necessarily agree with.
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Post by Antonio on Dec 19, 2008 2:22:25 GMT -5
Yea Classic totaly agree, killing in general is bad but when it's violence towards innocent people like in this Walsh case I have no remorse for evil.
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Post by Phil on Dec 19, 2008 18:33:00 GMT -5
Gangs are actually very organized. Otis Toole and others like him are just scum and that's almost too good of a word for such people.
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Post by Kimm on Dec 19, 2008 21:16:53 GMT -5
The justice system doesnt really have room for Otis Toole. Unfortunately everybody is entitled to a fair trial with a chance for reasonable doubt.
Theres no clause that lets action be taken or scums turned over to vigilantes. Once in a while you read about a story that a sheriff looks the other way as the towns people kill a serial killer. They also sometimes have a situation where the prisoners kill a serial killer and the prison staff manages not to see what happened.
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Post by Classicblast on Dec 20, 2008 22:32:14 GMT -5
Unfortunately some of those serial killers have confessed and then recanted the murders. Some say that confessions were for publicity and recanting came when the attention wore off then why seem like more of a monster
Obviously 2 murders in succession makes a person a serial killer and having more than the others could in an insane type of way seem like a stat thing. But they end up toying with the law and investigators too. A killer taking credit for a murder is more the case than a confession in that case. Once he confesses chances are investigation stops because the case is believed to be solved because there's a confession. I would figure that too.
So when there's all of a sudden recanting the crime what now? Perhaps three or five or ten years of investigation is stale because the whole case had been closed. You're likely to find out the confession was right but you for the time being take away the family's sense of closure.
Closure is the main thing families want. I think they all pretty well know justice doesn't happen in those cases. Imprisonment or even execution is not justice, you don't get your child back. The only thing you get is knowing he didn't get away with the murder and at least this guy can't hurt anybody else. That helps don't get me wrong but it's really not enough.
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