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Post by Phil on Sept 23, 2008 13:32:07 GMT -5
I would bet most of those imbalances don't vote anyway. There's a good chance if you asked them who the president is some of them would name Ronald Reagan because sometime in their life they heard of him being president and they don't follow world events.
I actually know someone who thought Bob casey was still our governor. We have had 3 governors since him and Pennsylvania has a 2 term limit in governor. And Bob Casey died of cancer after his term as governor. His son serves as a Senator.
How you vote should be for your own reasons and not for how someone is being promoted or for any other novelty.
Lets not go as high as president.
Lets say your city was having an election for mayor. Hear what the candidates have to say, and know their stance on issues that are important to you. If they come to your door and campaign ask them. 'How do you feel about -insert issue-
Don't settle for 'I personally feel 1 way but the law upholds this.' Then say 'we elect you to modify the law though, so if it comes to your desk how will -insert their name- vote?
Many articulate speakers hypnotize crowds with the ground work for a utopia. Forget it. If a candidate makes promises that don't seem realistic, investigate how impossible these things are and then make your decision.
We had a county office seeker say he would lower taxes by 30%. That means either he wont do it and he will say that the situation was worse than he thought, or he will cut services such as snowplowing and other services reducing payroll on county workers. Make sure you know how he is going to live up to such a promise if he makes it.
But you should vote. Who to vote for does take some attention and maybe some swaying of your head til you figure out which candidate is more on target for what you feel is important.
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Post by Pumpkin on Sept 23, 2008 15:21:25 GMT -5
It's good to be able to laugh at yourself. As an American, I have to laugh at the video---or I might cry when I see such ignorance on display. I fear for our future  There is a difference between ignorance and stupidity. I would agree that we Americans on the whole are an ignorant lot. Stupid? Consult with the normal bell-shaped curve of human traits and intelligence. We are the same as everyone else in abilities. It's what one chooses to do with those abilities that makes the difference. We don't use our abilities like we once did. |
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Post by Classicblast on Sept 23, 2008 16:52:23 GMT -5
Good point Pumpkin there is a big difference between ignorance and stupidity. And I also agree most people aren't really stupid by definition. Most people have enough capacity to learn but ignorance is bliss and large amounts of people are disinterested.
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Post by Beangirl on Sept 23, 2008 19:55:40 GMT -5
Yup...Here is an example of "stupidity" An announcer asks a Woman."What do you think of Christmas?" She answers :" Oh, I just love Christmas! I think we should have it every year!"  |
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Post by _glitch_ on Sept 23, 2008 22:36:23 GMT -5
People this stupid - people that make up the general populace of America - are going to be voting. And you can be sure that they're not going to base their choice on anything of substance. That's just terrifying, if you ask me. Anyone have anything to add to this? id vote obama...simply so I could be around during the first black presidency. _glitch_ |
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Post by Blastgirl on Sept 24, 2008 0:15:01 GMT -5
I would never laugh at Aido179 but I hope your voting reasons are a little bit stronger than that.
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Post by aido179 on Sept 24, 2008 5:42:03 GMT -5
lol. im not american, so I wont be able to vote. nor am I of age to vote. but when I am, I probably wont vote unless I have a strong reason to. otherwise I will just be skewing an already skewed political system. so yeah, I would have a better reason...namely his tax plan is far better proportioned than mccain's
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Post by _glitch_ on Sept 24, 2008 6:00:59 GMT -5
Okay, well that's a little more reasonable. I just couldn't help myself, man. (Nothing personal. You just had bad timing, and I caught it.)
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Post by aido179 on Sept 24, 2008 10:51:11 GMT -5
the timing was perfect and you missed it! lol
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Post by Phil on Sept 24, 2008 13:06:25 GMT -5
I think Obama like many political leaders has mastered what Americans want to hear but not all of what is proposed is really possible.
And then Joe Biden says 'Americans need to be more patriotic and pay more taxes.' That doesn't endeer him to this American. aido179 I don't know what intervals you have elections in Ireland but I think it's important to vote. At least that way the candidates have to have a message that interests a higher percentage of people.
Believe me theres politicians that figure out what percentage doesn't vote, finds out if they're in what part of society then they would figure that 70% of people who work such and such a job don't vote. And base their next move on that.
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Post by Pumpkin on Sept 24, 2008 13:12:18 GMT -5
lol. im not american, so I wont be able to vote. nor am I of age to vote. but when I am, I probably wont vote unless I have a strong reason to. otherwise I will just be skewing an already skewed political system. so yeah, I would have a better reason...namely his tax plan is far better proportioned than mccain's Yeah, that's a good point as far as tax proportion goes. Personally, I'd like to abolish the IRS and just go with a flat user tax---a pay as you go percentage tax system. I think that should at least be looked into.....Well, that would probably take 20 years to study by Congress......It probably won't happen in my lifetime.  |
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Post by Phil on Sept 24, 2008 13:13:06 GMT -5
Or mine either but I think a flat tax is the most fair way to go about it.
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Post by _glitch_ on Sept 24, 2008 15:18:57 GMT -5
I just read The Gospel According To Larry and Vote For Larry by Janet Tashjian. I highly recommend both of them.
They provided me with a nice sketch of the corruption found in our media and government. Also, they were incredibly entertaining reading.
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Post by Blastgirl on Oct 3, 2008 0:09:45 GMT -5
The Media is very corrupt when it comes to pushing their own agenda.
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Post by Mahnarch on Oct 5, 2008 15:36:48 GMT -5
...and it's not considered a monopoly when one man owns all media outlets
somehow.
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Post by Phil on Oct 6, 2008 14:12:58 GMT -5
Ted Turner just knows everything I guess.
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Post by Classicblast on Oct 7, 2008 21:10:05 GMT -5
Ted Turner just knows everything I guess. Some people think the wealtheir you are the more you know. To some degree they're right but not fully. |
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Post by Hatson on Oct 8, 2008 9:46:53 GMT -5
Ted Turner just knows everything I guess. Some people think the wealtheir you are the more you know. To some degree they're right but not fully. Come on now you can buy the right events that took place even change people's memory if you have the money. It's worked for lots of celebs. We have our share of dumbasses in Canada too. Its funny to watch though. |
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