Election

[Phil]

Here in Pennsylvania we lost our Republican governor Tom Corbett to Democrat challenger Tom Wolf. I don't know a lot about Wolf but he will be our commonwealth's governor for the next 4 years. I am a bit sorry because I did like Corbett.

New York keeps Andrew Cuomo who will probably run for President in 2016.

The congress has swung GOP at least for now that should stop Obama from further damaging this country in the 2 years he has left in office.

I have become 1 to support term limits when I didn't used to since Obama has been President.

[Classicblast]

I am glad Congress went this way that shows that we are not alone in disapproval of Obama.

[Phil]

I never was a big believer in term limits but since Obama I am now.

Previously I figured its up to the voters but when a country can elect someone like this not once but twice I have learned my lesson about how necessary term limits are.

The thing is people who don't pay attention to who does what don't vote. That leaves those who the incumbents do favors for to keep them in office indefinitely. People complain about wanting change but they keep reelecting the same people.

[Phil]

here it is let's go. Always a hot topic always has been. I have not said anything openly on Facebook or YouTube I'll make my first announcement here. haze pampas grass and he's pampas crass and sometimes a little too outspoken. but we are so looking for leadership he's filling concert halls in football stadiums because he is saying what is on so many minds. I think at this time he is our best hope

[Phil]

I am still for Trump I really hope we don't get Sanders or Hillary if we get one of those two America might not survive 4 or 8 years of either of those 2 on the backs of 2 terms of Obama

We won't have an off shore invasion what can happen is Obama and the Democrats' lack of care about refugees who we know nothing about is how we can be invaded from the inside. Other than Pearl Harbor there has never been an off shore invasion like 9/11/01 the danger is the invasions from within and the last 7 years have allowed such built up for that possibility. Along with the blind acceptance of some 100,000 Syrian refugees. Notice there's not many women, small children or elderly? Its nearly all men between 16 and 40. Does that concern you? It should!

Meanwhile Obama has begun and Hillary and Bernie would also continue to shrink our military.............

Bernie is a socialist. 'Democratic socialist' is his term to assure you its not the same as communism. Ok, its not. It is something different sure. However, with Democratic socialism you still deal with the government regulating where your tax dollars go they can set your tax base as they see fit and use the funds however they want to. Denmark uses Democratic socialism check it out as you wish. I know most people have left the forum but for what its worth.......

[Phil]

Tuesday is the big day.

This Pennsylvania man is voting for Donald Trump.

If Hillary Clinton is elected America will be lost not for 4 years but for a generation. These Syrian refugees that Obama has begun to let in this country and Hilary wants to bring in some 100 thousand more, When you see the pictures notice there's hardly any women or small children or elderly just men between 16 and 40?

Well they're not coming to be friends of ours they are coming to invade. Within 1 to 3 years the problem will esxolate attacks will be more frequent and more bloody. Cities like Dearborn Michigan have already elected an Islamic City council. They've already hinted at enforcing some Sharia Law. At this pace there will be more Dearborns. Bill Clinton has suggested giving said burnedout neighborhoods in Detroit to the refugees/ Sounds like a viable solution to some but that gives them a base and a no-go zone to the rest of us. We will be left with 2 choices tolerate it or fight.

I for one would rather die on my feet than live on my knees I am a belligerent 45 year old Pollock though!

So that means if we fight its Civil War. And the least motivated generation of ages 15 to 25 will have to fight the war for us and we will need to depend on them. *That includes my 2 sons by the way* A crisis of this magnitude could wake them up. If we win this Civil war it woudl be a 3 to 5 year campaign Then we are looking at 20 to 25 years to rebuild America to the life we know. That's a generation . And that lies ahead if we elect Hillary Clinton.

[Phil]

Donald Trump
I boarded the Trump Train when he announced his candidacy in June of 2015. I like that he is not a career politician and even though he is wealthy he does relate to workers like myself. Union bureaucrats and yes men do not. Democrats and Republicans alike talk about what they think you want to hear and fade into obscurity making a return appearance ever 4 years not really doing much. Their hands are tied because someone or some companies are in their pocket Political leaders should do what racers do and wear a suit with their sponsors tags on them.

The Trump Train is a movement. When he got in the race the press and the political people snubbed him. They said things like 'he has no experience.' 'he isn't really running this is a side show he's seeking publicity'

It was felt by those guys what once it got started he would be overrun by those senators and governors. Once the balloting began those senators and governors began dropping faster than Bill Clinton's pants around an intern.
Right after that they said the primaries will make him go away. NOPE! He didn't win the fist stop in Iowa but he did take the next many. The pack thinned out fast. The critics said he has beginner enthusiasm but as t goes either Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush or John Kasich will take the lead. NOPE! Didn't happen.

Next they said even if he holds the lead he won't get the 1237 delegates needed to secure the nomination. Wrong again. He got that with 6 or 7 states left to primary ending with about 1700.

Next they said even with that its likely to be a brokered convention and the Republican party will probably nominate either Bush, Cruz or Kasich or even go off the board and nominate Paul Ryan or Mitt Romney. The convention came and went and none of that happened.

He got nominated. Jeb Bush was mad I guess figuring since his father and brother were Presidents he should be 1 too. Ted Cruz went to the convention but did not clearly endorse Donald. *he came out and did so with 3 weeks left* The convention was in Cleveland but the Ohio governor John Kasich still pouting that the committee didn't broker the convention and nominate him sat it out. All of the Bushes and Kasich wrote in Republicans who did not run for the office.

After the nomination all the news outlets talked about a possible Trump withdraw or even a possibility of the RNC pulling the endorsement and still having an emergency Brokered convention even media sites asking who they would like to see as a 'replacement nominee' That talk died after a few weeks.
Next they brought out a 'locker room' video which a private discussion he said something that was recorded and went viral. They hoped that would derail the train

The polls were posted with him trailing Hillary by 6 to 8 points but I don't know where they polled unless they only polled inner Philadelphia but in this state I saw no Hillary signs or stickers but Trump signs were everywhere and Trump carried this usually historic Blue state. Philadelphia can usually over rule the rest of Pennsylvania. So here we are Tuesday night with all the states that had been polled 'too close to predict' Trump won them all, Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Ohio *most by convincing margins proving the polls inaccurate or out and out lies* Pennsylvania and Michigan that were polled in a somewhat comfortable lead for Hillary went Trump both are usually blue states. Wisconsin was polled as a comfortable Hillary state went Trump and Iowa was polled even went comfortable to Trump as did Arizona. So the polling was either badly inaccurate, or reported in a complete lie to surpress people from voting for Trump

[Phil]

I say the polls were placed because the press knew there was no path to get Hillary Clinton more votes. The press knew that there was nobody who voted for Hillary who wouldn't have 20 years ago. The only Hillary voters were those who vote blue no matter who, and some of them were waking up everyday. So the only path our dishonest media had to get her elected would be to vilify Trump to the point where you either vote for Gary Johnson.... or to show her in a lead where its out of reach for Trump to get you to stay home and not vote at all. It didn't work though and Trump has even awakened much of America to the dishonesty of the news and press altogether.

[Phil]

The thing is Trump said that things can be rigged. And that he might reserve concession to see what is found out. Hillary and company said that if Trump and his supports don't accept the outcome they are threatening democracy. President Obama came on television with a smirk saying that it was ridiculous to suggested that it was even possible to rig an election and that it was sour grapes on the part of the republicans to say that.

Then Trump won.

Suddenly recount suggestions went underway
That was another joke Jill Stein raised money to pay for her defunct campaign for the most part there really wasn't a recount. In Detroit they found that in 37 precincts that were overwhelmingly Democrat that there were more votes than registered voters. So that would be a big can of worms for Democrats since it would prove they lost even with voter fraud. so the simple solution was to just concede that Hillary lost Michigan after all. Better to concede an election than be convicted.

Now they suggest a possible Russian hack!!!!

They never figured that the voters would come out for Donald and overcome their faked illegal votes but that's exactly what happened.

[Phil]

I am glad Trump is up for the fight. The establishment is going to fight him tooth and nail every step of the way

[Nitro God]

shame Donald Trump is a total disaster.

[Phil]

I'd be interested in knowing why you say that?

I think he was the only option possible. After 2 terms of Obama we have become weaker in the eyes of the world, our military is back on the mend from the Obama years watering it down.

Regulations that have been difficult for American businesses to operate are being lifted.

He got us out of the Paris agreement that would have put 2.3 trillion dollars into the global new world order and out of the American economy that desperately needs it. Meanwhile it lifts restrictions on American factories *none of the other countries were facing restrictions by the way* and China and India who are not forced restrictions are also not forced to pay into the agreement for at least 4 to 12 years. Obama had us lined up for that.

William Ford, himself, CEO of Ford Motor company said that due to the deal ofered to him by Trump some Ford outlets that were thinking of outsourcing are staying here.

All this in 5 months. *remember Trump never held a government position before so none of our problems that existed on or before January 19 are his doing....

And he has revealed the fake news media and lit the fuse where they're mostly revealing themselves.


Although I guess its your MO to show up after about 3 years and post something partially antagonistic

[Nitro God]

Jul 8, 2017 14:45:07 GMT -5 Phil said:

I'd be interested in knowing why you say that?

I think he was the only option possible. After 2 terms of Obama we have become weaker in the eyes of the world, our military is back on the mend from the Obama years watering it down.

Regulations that have been difficult for American businesses to operate are being lifted.

He got us out of the Paris agreement that would have put 2.3 trillion dollars into the global new world order and out of the American economy that desperately needs it. Meanwhile it lifts restrictions on American factories *none of the other countries were facing restrictions by the way* and China and India who are not forced restrictions are also not forced to pay into the agreement for at least 4 to 12 years. Obama had us lined up for that.

William Ford, himself, CEO of Ford Motor company said that due to the deal ofered to him by Trump some Ford outlets that were thinking of outsourcing are staying here.

All this in 5 months. *remember Trump never held a government position before so none of our problems that existed on or before January 19 are his doing....

And he has revealed the fake news media and lit the fuse where they're mostly revealing themselves.


Although I guess its your MO to show up after about 3 years and post something partially antagonistic

Well in the UK we generally really liked Obama, I'm sure there are legitimate reasons not to like him and plenty of republican reasons but he's largely considered a strong leader around the UK. On the other hand, Trump is considered a massive joke by most of America and just about all of the UK and Europe. I'm not saying this to be antagonistic, I know I have been on here but that's pretty much the truth right there.

He is terrible.

He is beyond terrible. Largely racist, not nearly the business man he pretends to be, absolutely ridiculous reactionary policies and responses to win votes and appease supporters. He just says things and expects them to be fact. He's incredibly narcissistic, which as a Psychology post-graduate student, I must admit I find him fascinating. He's nowhere near the intelligence of any other President ever (which isn't even an insult) but he's leagues behind Obama and even Hillary in terms of IQ. He's a total hypocrite and has done many of things he accused Obama of on twitter (such as bombing Syria being reactionary).

He's ridiculously sexist, was caught doing so and defended himself by saying 'no one has more respect for women than me..nobody'. He just claims hyperbole over every issue. He makes Rick Santorum look sane for Christ's sake!

He can't seem to control himself on twitter. Yes I agree that some of what the media prints is ridiculous and wrong, but he is trying to control what is news and what isn't. Dictator anyone? And fake news? He is the epitome of fake news, he makes all kinds of things up. He mocked a disabled journalist on television and then claimed he didn't on television. He said Hillary and Bill were fantastic at their jobs and continued to hold that opinion until they became his opponents.

He has no business being near nuclear weapons. He's antagonising North Korea and he has no idea how to handle them. He's showing early signs of dementia. Have I mentioned how ridiculously sexist he is? I forget if you have a daughter Phil? I know you have a son, Jason, and I hope he's well. If you do have a daughter, do you want her growing up in Donald Trump's America?

Yes he might have done some good for business but he's going to destroy the gently caressING PLANET by taking America out of the Paris Agreement just because Obama put them in it.

Too many policies are based on gently caressing over Obama. He's lied countless times about Obama including about him spying on them. Not to mention he's Putin's puppet.

He wants to build a wall and have Mexico pay for it? Dream on you tangerine piece of racist crap.

He wants to get rid of Obamacare and replace it with some even worse crap.

He incites hate and paranoia to his supporters.

I could go on forever.

He has no idea what he's doing and he is incredibly dangerous. His narcissistic view of the world will come tumbling down all around him and he wont be able to comprehend why.

Hillary probably was bad, but she has nothing on Trump.

[Phil]

I think if you lived in this country you might not think that.

And I don't mean that critically so much since not living here you only have media to go on and they're in the pockets of the Democrats so they want to make Hillary and Obama seem good .

There is nothing good about those 2.

Trump has never held political office before therefore he never has taken a penny of taxpayer money *in fact he funded his own campaign and has declined the Presidential salary. He has donated his 1st installment of the money

There's 2 opportunities to have Mexico pay for the wall They have seized a crime lord called EL Chapo and seized about 17 billion of his money and the wall would cost about 21 billion to build. Congress is going to try to fight using that money to build the wall because if Trump gets it done that way and uses not only Mexican money bo pay ofr it but dirty Mexican money they can forget about their reelection to their congressional seats.

We have a big problem with illegal squatters many of whom and criminal element and Islamic terrorism is a problem throughout the world and Trump is addressing those issues something no President has done for several decades. And out trade imbalance that is killing our economy Trump is just what the doctor ordered for this country and the most thankful thing of all is we didn't get Hillary.

The media like CNN, MSNBC and the other networks did everything they could to suppress Trump votes and modify polls but the American people overruled the elite crappy media and liberal high and mighty. The press has made up much of the racial and sexixt reputation. Trump has been a public figure all my life. I remember him coming on TV when I was a teenager *I'm 46 currently* at that time he had no plans to run for President of political office at all and he said the same things he says now. Illegal squatting and the trade imbalance are 2 of our major issues. There's 1987 interviews of him saying that. So its not like he got on board now and decided to make a run of office.

Hillary never had any platform other than 'Its time for a woman President and I'm it"

Ted Cruz, John Kasssich, Jeb Bush, .Marco Rubio,,,,,, They're ok but they're more of the same talking heads show up every 4 years with the same message political leaders always have. Trump has fresh plans.


And finally you are entitled to dislike Donald Trump is that's how you feel but forget him being anybody's puppet Putin or anyone else. I assure NOBODY tells that man what to do. He has made that clear for at least 3 decades and proven it a million times.

On another note he funded medical help and support to numerous sick children long before he ever talked about running. Has any other eventual candidate done that? I'll save you the trouble none has.
Bernie Sanders is a socialist whack. If you have no intention of working for a living and you want to be supported by the system he was reaching out to those people.

[Nitro God]

Jul 15, 2017 19:45:30 GMT -5 Phil said:

I think if you lived in this country you might not think that.

And I don't mean that critically so much since not living here you only have media to go on and they're in the pockets of the Democrats so they want to make Hillary and Obama seem good .

There is nothing good about those 2.

Trump has never held political office before therefore he never has taken a penny of taxpayer money *in fact he funded his own campaign and has declined the Presidential salary. He has donated his 1st installment of the money

There's 2 opportunities to have Mexico pay for the wall They have seized a crime lord called EL Chapo and seized about 17 billion of his money and the wall would cost about 21 billion to build. Congress is going to try to fight using that money to build the wall because if Trump gets it done that way and uses not only Mexican money bo pay ofr it but dirty Mexican money they can forget about their reelection to their congressional seats.

We have a big problem with illegal squatters many of whom and criminal element and Islamic terrorism is a problem throughout the world and Trump is addressing those issues something no President has done for several decades. And out trade imbalance that is killing our economy Trump is just what the doctor ordered for this country and the most thankful thing of all is we didn't get Hillary.

The media like CNN, MSNBC and the other networks did everything they could to suppress Trump votes and modify polls but the American people overruled the elite crappy media and liberal high and mighty. The press has made up much of the racial and sexixt reputation. Trump has been a public figure all my life. I remember him coming on TV when I was a teenager *I'm 46 currently* at that time he had no plans to run for President of political office at all and he said the same things he says now. Illegal squatting and the trade imbalance are 2 of our major issues. There's 1987 interviews of him saying that. So its not like he got on board now and decided to make a run of office.

Hillary never had any platform other than 'Its time for a woman President and I'm it"

Ted Cruz, John Kasssich, Jeb Bush, .Marco Rubio,,,,,, They're ok but they're more of the same talking heads show up every 4 years with the same message political leaders always have. Trump has fresh plans.


And finally you are entitled to dislike Donald Trump is that's how you feel but forget him being anybody's puppet Putin or anyone else. I assure NOBODY tells that man what to do. He has made that clear for at least 3 decades and proven it a million times.

On another note he funded medical help and support to numerous sick children long before he ever talked about running. Has any other eventual candidate done that? I'll save you the trouble none has.
Bernie Sanders is a socialist whack. If you have no intention of working for a living and you want to be supported by the system he was reaching out to those people.

I mean whether or not he knows it, he's being manipulated by Putin.

I don't know about the sick children thing and that does sound nice but likely a publicity stunt and there's a crap tonne of stories that he was never as charitable (or as anything) as he or his PR team have claimed he is. In fact, on your point about a self made man, that's simply not true and he was helped a lot by his father (and I don't say that critically, I've been helped a lot by my father in my profession, you know, why wouldn't you?)

You should read this, I'd be interested to hear your opinion on it www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

This idea that Donald Trump isn't taking the President salary is bollocks really when you consider how much he's costed in taxpayer expenses through playing golf for example.
www.independent.co.uk/news/world-0/donald-trump-plays-golf-course-virginia-scotland-white-house-g20-summit-a7832146.html
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-travel-expenses-10-weeks-us-taxpayer-fifth-barack-obama-eight-years-mar-a-lago-us-a7670541.html

[Phil]

These things happened several times for decades before he ever talked about running for office. To say that was a publicity stunt is highly unlikely he has done several; things like that and never even sough the publicity although it came out eventually anyway. *Unless you think it was strategically awaited* but I doubt it.

The tax payers dollar? I wouldn't bother with that. The news outlets have been caught trying to corner him. Not a matter of opinion its even proven. But in any case his own plane transports him and his family a lot of time time not Airforce 1. No other President ever did that. No candidate in our lifetime funded his own campaign *running with the 2 major parties( Ross Perot was an independent candidate in 1992 he funded his own also.

There's nothing that holds water on Trump spending tax dollars, he has been in government for 6 months, all other elected officials President and otherwise were in government using tax dollar for decades so anything he has used in tax dollars is a drop in the bucket compared to others. He has already saved the county billions of dollars of tax money that no other President in over 70 years has so that by far outweigh anything like that.

The Clintons and Obama are the worst offenders of use of federal money and padding their pockets Bernie Sanders has also used the system to his benefit. No senators who have a job for 175000 a year end up with a net worth of 100 million unless they're using the system. If its a probate enterprise its a different story.

[Phil]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=U20DMF9qe3s
If you're interested

[Nitro God]

i mean Trump spending more taxpayer's money and golfing more than Obama did is fact. But today Trump once again does something transphobic for no apparent reason other than he's a bigot and ignorant orange man. He's so ridiculously bad Phil! You have to believe a lot to give him any sort of support. He's going to be impeached at some point (that's just looking more and more likely) and whilst I'm not pro media by any stretch, his war on the media is bordering on psychotic. I wonder if you go on twitter Phil or know much about it? I think that might certainly change your opinion on him, he's crazy on there. For example, he for no reason, made some completely false accusation about Obama which was proven false and he just proceeded to ignore and pretend he never said it.