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Post by angel607 on Mar 20, 2013 20:06:56 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTF1K8x4xnci posted a link of coverage of the news feeling sorry for a rapist that has me burning mad. I don't think these kids realize the impact and hell they put this poor girl through. yes she was passed out and drunk but does it give you a right to violate her? all they care about is how what they did will ruin their life. but not only did they violate her they posted the video online for the world to see. I have not watched that video because I don't think I have it in me to watch that. I think these boys are nothing but low class scum. I don't get why the news is talking about how it will affect their life. they made a choice to terrorize her. this girl had her life taken away from her and will probably need years of theropy to even trust again and not be afraid of men. but what kind of message is this sending to victims everywhere who have been raped that we should feel sorry for them and let it go because it will be hard on them. maybe they don't know what it feels like to be a victim or how broken down on the inside you feel and everyday you sit in the dark crying over it suffering flashbacks and you think you will never get the life back you once had. how whenever a guy is near you you just want to jump out of your skin and run. if this is the coverage they are going to run about the rapist they should be fired. they destroyed her entire life and don't even care to talk about the horror she went through. all they care about is how it will affect these scumbags future. do they even know about how hard it is for a victim to come forward and tell someone. most of the time they won't because of fear and bottle it up inside until they explode. they fear the blame will be put on them. I am so mad at them words just can't even express. it was no accident they attacked her and they should have to pay for what they did but you better belive they won't suffer half as much as a rape victim.
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Post by Classicblast on Mar 20, 2013 23:42:37 GMT -5
I can't believe this either. The victim is not the rapists. At least the critique channel expresses the terrible injustice that covering the story the way CNN did. Leave it to CNN to victimize the rapists. Their life is over? IT SHOULD BE!
Obviously they're trying to point out that they're juveniles and at a young age they're tainted. But who made that decision? They did!
Obviously it's not as if they accidentally did something that injured or killed someone. And if they had they'd have to pay for that too, but this is a pre meditated act that will traumatize the poor girl for a long time if not forever.
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Post by Beangirl on Mar 21, 2013 12:47:23 GMT -5
I have been following this too. Unbelievable  These guys are rapists pure and simple. |
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Post by Phil on Mar 21, 2013 13:02:47 GMT -5
Pure and simple! to quote Beangirl here. And their lives are ruined.... and who's fault was that? It wasn't the court, the judge, the jury or the district attorney's office that ruined their lives or the police who brought them in. They ruined their lives when they made the decision to rape that girl.
Good thing I'm not a judge or a tall tree and a short piece of rope would be the answer to this.
I can't believe how culture today is trying to make a hero or a victim out of the terrorists. That was 1 of the reasons I was kind of relieved when Adam Lanza of Sandy Hook killed himself at least someone like a defense attorney and CNN wouldn't have the chance to make him look like he was misunderstood.
Hell, my name is Ostrotkiewicz *13 letters no need to count* and I got called a Polock all growing up years, when someone didn't agree with me they sometimes made reference to being a Polock I probably didn't understand the situation. So if I become an ax murderer I can blame it on that?
I do not understand the attitudes of today and where we are going in those regards. The way that report is presented have no doubt some viewers were made to feel sorry for the rapists and possibly have 2nd thoughts if they should be sent away like this.
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Post by angel607 on Mar 21, 2013 23:42:33 GMT -5
i just learned yesterday youtube has a 12 minute video of the ohio rape. I watched it and the guys were laughing saying she was more dead then Trayvon martin. all the people there not one called 911 to report a crime. the victim was getting death threats so CNN gave the media her name out which made everything else so their ratings would go up and people would tune in. A young girl who's life was in serious danger ment nothing to them. they won't give the victim a apology because they feel they did nothing wrong. I have continued to slam CNN for what they did on their facebook. even if it's a forced apology they need to admit they were wrong.
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Post by Classicblast on Mar 22, 2013 0:40:12 GMT -5
That's just the most repulsive thing. CNN deserves to be held somewhat accountable for this.
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Post by Phil on Mar 22, 2013 11:49:31 GMT -5
That's where society is going today. They don't want honest people to have guns, and yet a rapist is misunderstood? Where's the logic here?
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Post by Beangirl on Mar 22, 2013 11:56:25 GMT -5
Reminds me of the movie "The Accused". Jodie Foster played a rape victim who was blamed for her own crime. She was put on trial as were her rapists. This was based on a true story of a woman who had been gang raped.Sexual abuse of anyone without there consent is rape.
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Post by angel607 on Mar 23, 2013 0:48:38 GMT -5
it's horrible that victims are made to feel like crap. people want them to come forward then we still have stuff like this happening. it needs to change because if it doesn't our future generation is in danger.
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Post by Phil on Mar 24, 2013 15:36:50 GMT -5
That's our 'bass ackwards' propitiates these days.
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Post by Phil on Mar 30, 2013 19:29:28 GMT -5
That James Holmes from the Colorado shootings is 1 that didn't kill himself and now they're feeling sorry for him some what because a lawyer is trying to make him look like a victim like in this case that started this thread.
Our country-- actually our world needs to fix our priorities.
These advocates to take guns away keep forgetting its not the gun that we need to worry about its the criminal. Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols didn't use guns. Joe Kosczynski used home made bombs. Something I can make in my garage with gasoline a battery and an alarm clock
The 9/11 /01 terrorists used box cutters to hijack airplanes and then used them as bombs.
That's among the reasons I got so mad at Dan Rather in my early forum time. Those who knew me that long ago probably remember I was mad when Rather interviewed Saddam Hussein. Saddam's out there with Dan Rather for that interview posing like he's everybody's grandfather and Rather figures he's make Americans angry with then President Bush who is about to go to war against this 'nice old man.'
And over a decade later we're still doing that.
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Post by angel607 on Mar 31, 2013 20:58:34 GMT -5
it bothers me so much that they are feeling sorry for the idiot who shot up a movie theater. he shot a 3 month old baby. I mean really all the innocent people who their only crime was to go out have some fun watch a movie and this moron terrorized everyone. they won't give him the death penalty. why should he get to live to see another day while his victims are buried six feet under? the people who are mentally ill a lot of times nobody will help these people due to lack of funds. here in allentown there was a mentally ill man with a machete swinging it around. the police tried tasering the guy and when that didn't work they fired their guns and shot him. now the police are in trouble because the family said the police should be able to deal and talk to people with mental health issues. how do you talk a guy down with a 2 foot knife swinging it around through the city? also I do understand when a girl was raped they have to question her because sadly some will lie for attention but not many cases. the thing that bugs me is many times they put blame on the victim like they don't believe her or she provoked the attack by wearing something. that's why so many victims will not come forward. the rapists gets more rights then the person attacked. I say person because in some cases it's the guy who is raped or molested. if you think about how things are going now and if this continues well into the future were in for a lot of problems. especially when you have kids to worry about and things refuse to change. if you are attacked you shouldn't be questioned like your on trial they should feel sympothy for what you went through and protect you. CNN disgusts me for giving the victims name out and putting her in danger. maybe she was drinking because her life at home was horrible. I don't know her story but I know she made a mistake and regrets it. those boys made a video on how she was more dead then Trayvon martin and they laughed and urinated on her. yet these are the scumbags the reporters feel sorry for?
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Post by Phil on Apr 1, 2013 12:41:14 GMT -5
THere's a group in England lobbying for a case I remember that happened in 1993. There were 2 teenagers. I think they were 13 and 15 at the time but anyway they abducted a 2 year old and killed him. Yeah. They did that. Because they wanted to see what it was like to kill a person.
So they abducted this toddler I think it was at a mall but I don't remember exactly but they took him to am obscure place and killed him.
I can't imagine the terror that little boy went through. Lucky for those 2 son of a bit ches They're across an ocean from me.
They' were tried as adults and convicted. Now there's a group saying it's been nearly 20 years and they've been given new identity. *most likely to keep them alive* and of course now the angle being played is that was a long time ago and they've changed their ways and holding them for the rest of their life would ruin their life.
HELLO They made that decision 20 years ago. They ruined their life not the British justice system. That's exactly what I mean when they make a hero out of hero out of them. I remember at least 2 tv interviews with Tim McVeigh. He was sociable,and friendly during the interview. I am sure viewers were feeling sorry for him as he seemed like a nice guy in the interview.
That's why its a relief sometimes when they kill themselves making it so they don't get made a hero by a defense lawyer,
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Post by Beangirl on Apr 1, 2013 12:56:03 GMT -5
I know the case in England, James Bulger 3 years old was taken from a mall by two 10 year old Robert Thompson and Jon Venebles. The took him to a railroad track and tortured and sexually assaulted him.They served time until they were eighteen the released with new identities. People wanted to kill them they were so angry.It turns out Robert is homosexual and lives a quiet life with his male partner where as Jon is back in prison for violating his parole by downloading child porn. |
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Post by Phil on Apr 2, 2013 15:47:25 GMT -5
So we see, a leopard did not change his spots. Maybe he decided not to kill again but he's still lowlife scum. There's no way to repay a debt like that. I guess I could buy if there had been some kind of an accident that caused the death of a child I could say 'they're children themselves. They may need to learn an abrupt lesson but I'd hate to destroy their life when they're so young.'
Not in a case of premeditated murder when they tortured the toddler on top if it
No. There's no way to repay such a debt. None whatsoever. Could you imagine his parents? I can. I can imagine sleepless nights, outbursts of crying thinking about what they did to your child and remembering you could not save him....
Maybe its more graphic to a father of 3 but that's what would go through the parents' minds.
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Post by angel607 on Apr 2, 2013 21:05:22 GMT -5
i don't know what's wrong with a person that in their mind they want to kill someone simply to see what it feels like? they should of got professional help not take the life of a child who did nothing to them. also sexually assaulting someone and getting protection after what they did. I could never offer someone that. I don't think I could even look them in the face without feeling rage towards them. I just read about a case I think in ohio a man sexually assaulted a five month old baby and accidently killed the child. the man said he didn't mean to kill the child and doesn't want the death penalty. well to bad for him I think his neck should be wrapped around a rope and hung or seek the electric chair. the story the media reports acts like we should feel sorry he might be put to death. I don't want to understand piece by piece their motive to take a innocent life I want them to suffer like the way they made their victim suffer.
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Post by Phil on Apr 3, 2013 12:13:41 GMT -5
It was pretty definite the public would kill them if they weren't given new identity. But they made a conscious decision to ruin their life and they were old enough to know that. No sympathy from the 41 year old Polock here.
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Post by Beangirl on Apr 3, 2013 12:34:18 GMT -5
I have read the book on this case. These boys were so young they could not understand what they did. To them it was not real. They lied of course and blamed each other but it was as if they had no real feeling for James and that he was just an object and not a baby. Scary!
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