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Post by Mahnarch on Dec 27, 2007 22:47:10 GMT -5
This is my other story that could've landed me in the hospital or jail but, ended in neither.
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I was out and about, hanging with my ma and one of her friends and her friend's new boyfriend.
At one point I was just talking to my ma's friend when suddenly, he throws a can at me, striking me in the knee.
I stand up, saying "What the gently caress, dude?" and went for the can to keep it from spilling even more.
Next thing I know, I'm being tackled, full brunt, from the side.
I went up and over the arm of the chair I was sitting in, and bashed against the corner before the hallway before I landed on the floor - him strangling my neck with both hands.
He out-weighed me by at least 50lbs and out-reached me by 2 inches or more.
As I lie there on the floor I grabbed his shirt and pulled him toward me. I got 2 punches in, right to the nose, and forced him over.
I stood, as he did and I shoved him against the wall, immediately putting him into an unbalanced posture: Putting one of his legs up on the door knob whilst standing on his other foot and an arm straight up against the wall while his torso goes to the right at about 45 degrees. It looks stupid but, it works. He can't get momentum or force. If you're in a bar, you can use a barstool or pinball machine.
At that point, I release him quickly to his stomach and take the arm that was straight up to behind him as I straddle him.
I held him for 3 minutes while ma's friend pleaded with her boyfriend to calm down. My ma was on the phone, with bloody knuckles (more on that, later).
I let him up when he'd calmed and he runs out the door like, a second before the Sheriff knocks on the door. They get our info and walk around.
They found him in the woods, trying to run but, falling down about every 10ft in the snow.
Carted off to jail on Christmas Eve-eve, not to be arraigned for at least 5 days and no one to bail him out.
His own mother got word and called me to apologize heavily. I told her that it wasn't her fault. It turns out the he has always had an angry streak in him and this isn't the first time he's been in jail for random assault. (3 times, at least) I was thinking of pressing 'Attempted Murder 1' charges - because you don't strangle someone without the intent of homocide but, then I'd be in and out of court as his sleazy lawyer tries to get him off. With all his other charges, though, (all his priors and he was on probation, apparantly) he'll be sitting in the pen for quite awhile.
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Now, onto my mom's bloody knuckles.
One of the things I didn't notice during the altercation, because I was preoccupied at the time, was that my own dear mother (all of 5ft 4 and weighing in at a mere 85lbs) had mounted him and was punching the back of his head. My mother has never laid a hand on anyone, ever before. Not even me.
Now my sister calls her 'The Brawler'.
My mother was just about to the point of running into the kitchen and grabbing a knife but, I'd gotten him up against the wall before that.
If she'd stabbed him, I'd have taken the fall. I'm not about to let my 50 year old mother sit in any jail cell.
*Yes, even though it's justified self-defense, you WILL sit in a jail cell until the fuzz figure things out,,,,which they don't rush to do. And, atleast they get your fingerprints and mugshot while they're at it.
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Post by Classicblast on Dec 27, 2007 23:14:43 GMT -5
In one word, wow.
This is quite a story. What angered that crazy guy in the first place? And wow again. It's as if this guy just went crazy.
How does your mother's friend (his girlfriend) feel right now? Unfortunately those types usually have women so obsessed with them that it's either a mistaken circumstance that caused him to blow up or this was a fluke and it wont happen again.
Well at least you were not seriously injured or placed in trouble with the law. That's a rough thing to have happen though.
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Post by Demona on Dec 28, 2007 0:36:42 GMT -5
Random assault? As in just....because? He needs to go to the looney bin, fast! Lucky he didn't have success choking you. I hope he hasn't done sh*t to that woman either.
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Post by Blastgirl on Dec 28, 2007 1:48:29 GMT -5
I think charges should be pressed. That's because he will do it again to someone and I'd be sure he has done it before.
I have had friends who had a Boyfriend or Husband who would beat them and abuse them in other ways and a weekend of not doing that seems to mean he has turned over a new leaf.
I wouldn't trust this person. You talking to your Mom's friend was probably some kind of subconscious threat to this guy.
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Post by Mahnarch on Dec 28, 2007 2:03:37 GMT -5
What angered him? It turns out, he thought I was hitting on my ma's friend and he's super-jealous. At the time of the attack, I was asking how they had met....nothing big.
Ma's friend is still in shock. She had no clue, whatsoever. She's also been reclusive for the last few days - probably doesn't know how the water is on our end.
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Yeah. Random assault. Those 'Sobe Energy Drinks' must do weird stuff - unless he was spiking them with something when no one was looking.
His mom agrees with you; he should be carted off. He's beaten many men and women over the years.
I might be a little guy, but I'm still stout. I couldn't breathe at the time but, I was far from running out of air that I'd already taken in. Plus, the sudden rush of adrenaline was a big help and police grappling training helped out, some (although, I wasn't wearing a kevlar vest to protect from the initial blow).
Things would've turned out alot different if every citizen was allowed to carry (based on mental health - so I do recinde my long standing 'gun in every house' stance) But, that's a different rant, altogether.
The Sheriff came back later, giving me info on coping with being a victim (doing his job) but, I'm more angry about this poo poo than freightened.
You know, I keep re-playing it in my head, over and over and, I keep saying, "I should've kept my eyes on him, not the can on the floor.", "I should've punched him in the face as he rushed me.", "I should've judo'd him."
Oh, well. What's done is done. He's in the pen. I'm still walking around (sorely) And, no one will mess with mum, again, what with her new nickname.
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Post by Blastgirl on Dec 28, 2007 2:31:46 GMT -5
It's always easy to think about what you could have done after the fact. I think the important thing is not to be saying "I should have pressed charges against him" When his next attackee is more seriously injured.
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Post by Demona on Dec 28, 2007 5:09:29 GMT -5
Is it too late to press charges? He's a psycho and could end up killing somebody.
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Post by Beangirl on Dec 28, 2007 13:20:31 GMT -5
Geeze!! Yeah, Press Charges. This guy is nuts.
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Post by Classicblast on Dec 28, 2007 19:25:03 GMT -5
Is it too late to press charges? He's a psycho and could end up killing somebody. I agree with Demona and Beangirl.
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Post by farti1 on Dec 28, 2007 23:00:11 GMT -5
I agree with all of the above and press charges. I hope your moms friend is getting help and cuts all ties with this reject of society.
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Post by Jersey on Dec 28, 2007 23:49:54 GMT -5
Good job man. Good job. He decided that he was going to have one of his moments around someone who gave a beating right back to him, and not someone who couldn't defend themselves. How was this idiot out of prison or the funny farm? Bigger question, how did your mom's friend not know about his past in the slightest?
Once again, great job giving this guy a beating. Also, kudos to your mom for giving it to the back of his head. I like that.
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Post by Mahnarch on Dec 29, 2007 0:06:01 GMT -5
I believe that it's not too late to press charges until after he's been arraigned. Sadly, that happened yesterday afternoon (before I posted this and then found out about it). Fortunately, with his priors and probation, he'll be sitting in the local 'Hotel' for atleast a year (suggested by the sitting judge). Ma's friend has cut all ties. In fact, she's moving back to Indianapolis (her birthplace/mother's house) after the first of the year. I've given my ma my handgun (she knows how to use it..) for her protection, just in case, and she's now in possession of a Boost Mobile Nextel with my number as 1 of 3 numbers allowed in her address book: 1 being me (a gun toter), 2 being my dad (ex-husband but, still close friend/gun toter), and 3 being 'Jim' (neighbor 2 doors over/friend/black powder pistol collector [all functional]/gun toter) If some legal mumbo-jumbo, 'over-filled jails' lawyer gets him out on 'consequences', he won't be getting far in the 'revenge business'. Ma is also skilled in 'Frying Pan-itsu' [in which BG is probably a skilled warrior, also...] It's an elite collective. The main reason for the extra protection is: Jeff only knows where my ma lives. He doesn't even know where Borculo is. (He probably couldn't even locate the U.S. on a map.......- yeah, I'm still angry) He's even been known to seek revenge (conviction #2). Sadly, I'm the furtherest away - at 27 minutes, lights/sirens blaring and running red lights (yeah, don't ask). Dad is 10 minutes - same deal. Jim could be there in 20 seconds, locked and loaded with at least 4 six-shooters of 'ball and powder' at the ready. Problem is; he's 60+ years old. 60 year olds don't move like 30 year olds. Especially over snow and ice. I think I may have to either: Move ma in here. Or, move in with her. I don't want to be too protective, though - after all, they DID give him a year (again, suggested). But, that doesn't amount to squat these days. Maybe I'll just pay his cell mate to 'off him'...... Yeah. That's the best solution. A stack of Playboys and some lotion should be enough.* *** Jersey: He got off the 'other' charges because he was an 'Occasional Offender' (once every 7 years), according to his previous lawyer(s). He'd served his time(s) and done community service. He was still on probation (1 year) after his last 'incident'. My ma's friend had only been dating him for a couple of weeks before this went down and didn't know anything about his history. His mother was too embarrassed to let anyone know - which she now regrets (and now informs everyone). I got a mysterious number on my cell phone 4 days later (through the grapevine of info that girls have) and learned everything afterwards. Thanks for the Kudos. I just wish I was a little bit bigger when stuff like this came up. 20lbs makes quite a difference. I think I'll give up smoking after this, too. And join a gym..... .....or re-up my 'Gun Club Membership' over there on 120th St., or 136th,,,,or both. I might also appeal to the court, if I can get several past victims together (highly unlikely) and suggest a longer sentence. Again, I don't have the time for legal battles. I'd rather up and shoot the matriarch lover. *** *I don't mean to make light of the situation but, it's how I deal with the anger - any anger. If I didn't, I'd be knocking on the detention center's door and asking to beat Jeff's rear end in a top hat with a 2x4. They probably won't let me, though.
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Post by grape on Dec 29, 2007 0:25:03 GMT -5
Interesting, at least you're alright. Your story reminds me of this one thing that I saw in a subway station. Except that they were yelling about something about a lover and a family. It did look violent, since they were trying to stab each other on a fence that had a sharp corner. The only blood that was spilled was from two big nose bleeds though.
Anyway, that is amazing, luckily you didn't go to the hospital nor jail. That guy should really see a shrink.
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Post by Blastgirl on Dec 29, 2007 1:10:46 GMT -5
I'm glad your Mom's friend is willing to part company with this guy. A lot of people wouldn't have. At least some people still have good judgment.
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Post by Mahnarch on Dec 29, 2007 1:52:03 GMT -5
Thanks Vix, for the support. Any further story on the outcome of that one? I hate to be left with a cliffhanger. Did the fuzz break up the action? Did the rightfull one win? Any silly, out of context puns? I love it when fights end up with one guy not knowing what to say, so he says, "Oh yeah?!.....Your Mom (whatevers)! " *** BG: We'll miss her, dearly, but it's for the best. If there's no 'her', there's no temptation. The only problem is: How can I protect her from the next one in Indianapolis?..... I have to be a God, I guess. How can I protect everyone at all times? I can't!!! That's what bothers me.. If I had hair, I'd be losing it right now........
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Post by Demona on Dec 30, 2007 16:46:08 GMT -5
Dude, what's this freak look like? He would deserves to be shot if he ever decided to hit a woman.
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Post by edlin on Dec 30, 2007 17:04:43 GMT -5
Well, congratulations on pwning a psychopath who outweighed you by 20 lbs and took you by surprise. That is quite an accomplishment.
It seems that his quarrel was with you, so he would be more likely to take revenge on you than your mom. But if he is a madman, who knows? Or does he just have bad temper, but is quick to forgive? I don't know the person, so I can't say.
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Post by Phil on Jan 2, 2008 14:15:05 GMT -5
That son of a lemon sucking illegitimate child needs to get hit on the top of the head so hard that he will have to unbutton his shirt to blow his nose from now on.
I don't think people like that who have an abusive nature are really reformable. I'd like to be proven wrong about that but it seems that whenever there's domestic trouble the local police end up knowing the family in a fairly short time.
The husband cries tells his wife he is sorry and says it will never happen again. And he probably intends for it to never happen again but rage is rage and its out of his control without advanced guidance. And even then there's rarely any change.
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