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Post by Phil on Apr 6, 2011 14:15:27 GMT -5
Colorado News: An 8 year old boy was pepper sprayed for exploding into a violent rage.
I don't know all of the details but pepperspray is not a bullet, and that might have been the only way to contain the kid. I'm all for not using brutality on kids but I think disciplinary action has become and is becoming too soft.
I never whipped my kids with a belt or hit them or did anything that would be argued as abuse but they also know I mean what I say when I tell them to do things or get in the car.. whatever the case may be. I've moved them forcefully at times but never slugged them.
And its never gotten to the point of using pepper spray. The kid in the story may have been a troubled kid, if thats the case its a very sad story because his problems are not going to get better as he gets older. If he ran amok because he's extremely spoiled and someone finally said no to him that might just be the rude awakening he needs.
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Post by Classicblast on Apr 7, 2011 0:29:53 GMT -5
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Post by Phil on Apr 7, 2011 12:24:31 GMT -5
I watched the video in the link. He is displayed as a normal 8 year old with a Spider Man decorated room, and playing with his dog and all. But the police had been called twice before to calm him down. According to the report that they talked him calm the other 2 times but this time they couldn't. The others locked themselves in a closet and the kid, Aiden actually said that he made the weapon because he was angry and he was prepared to use it if they came out.
While I originally thought the police using pepper spray on an 8 year old was a little over the top perhaps not when this kid has been a problem before. Again I don't know if his anger problems are the issue or if he is exceptionally spoiled. I do think its good that he has been put in a school for troubled kids. That might be the only chance of helping him.
If they kept him in his regular school and kept making excuses when he's a teenager he starts getting in trouble with the law and imprisoned around age 20. Maybe this will prevent the trouble that waits in the wing.
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Post by angel607 on Apr 7, 2011 23:13:32 GMT -5
i think it's really sad that a eight year old is going to be angry like that all his life. I watched the video and I hope he gets the help he needs. if he doesn't get help I would be afraid what he might be like when he is older. he could attack and really hurt someone.
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Post by Classicblast on Apr 7, 2011 23:55:21 GMT -5
Exactly Angel. He said himself he doesn't think that's going to change. Obviously there's professional therapy that this school he has been sent to will help and possibly even learn to control but like you said its almost as if there's no hope or belief of any.
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Post by Phil on Apr 8, 2011 13:41:57 GMT -5
I've been very lucky not to have to have had to deal with troubled kids. Me, being considerably older than my brother and sister, I did help raise them a little. And of course now I have 3 of my own. One of which will be 14 Sunday.
Like I said though I've never had to take hard measures to get cooperation.
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Post by Kimm on Apr 8, 2011 22:36:08 GMT -5
As terrible as this sounds that might have been the only thing they could do since he was acting so badly that they even locked themselves and the rest of the kids in a closet. More to protect the kids but even the teacher was afraid of him in that state then. He might seem like a normal little kid when his anger problems don't get the best of him but when they do hes a very dangerous person.
It helps the cause of the police. But it also is the best thing for the kid a regular 2nd grade isnt a fit for this boy.
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Post by Jason O'Lewa on Apr 10, 2011 14:01:22 GMT -5
spare the wip spoil the child
i dont know 8 is pretty young for pepper spray
my brother is 7 and sometimes he is pretty rembunctious but if I get him by the arm and say stay hear really loud he will
that I guess didnt work with this kid but I dont know thats a hard way to corect him
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Post by Demona on Apr 10, 2011 20:07:32 GMT -5
Pepper Spray is too much for an eight year old. I don't know why much bigger, older people couldn't take the piece of wood away from him and restrain him themselves. He doesn't belong in a regular school and needs counseling and medication.
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Post by Phil on Apr 11, 2011 12:49:42 GMT -5
Here's the video as per request.
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Post by Classicblast on Apr 12, 2011 0:49:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the video display, Phil. I think its nice that you included your father's grave site in a video.
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Post by Mahnarch on May 1, 2011 0:11:00 GMT -5
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Post by Classicblast on May 1, 2011 3:06:01 GMT -5
From the reading they had a few other instances where they tired to discuss with the boy. This particular time they seem to have tried and he wouldn't be reached. Obviously I hate to see a little kid peppersprayed but its not as if they came in as the swat team and blasted the kid either. Obviously we only have the story told by those who were there. Phil mentions it in the video and its in the article that he was using wood trim from the wall to make a weapon too. That's pretty creative for an eight year old if that's what really happened.
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Post by Jason O'Lewa on May 1, 2011 16:40:54 GMT -5
i think they have to do whatever they have to do if somebody refuses to be civilzed they probably had no choice
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