noudesu
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Post by noudesu on Jun 24, 2010 1:26:21 GMT -5
Christians have never answered the ever-famous "Why not believe in unicorns?" question
Every attempt at answering it amounts to a dance around the actual question, such as, "Well, if you want to believe that, I'm not going to stop you." Saying that really says nothing about the validity of unicorn belief, of which there's none.
So, Christians, is there anything wrong with having faith in unicorns? Or rather, why don't you have faith in unicorns, if there's nothing wrong with faith in unsupported beings? You cannot use petty logic to disprove unicorns -- it's a matter of faith. There is extensive literature to support unicorn existence I could reference.
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Post by Classicblast on Jun 24, 2010 1:55:02 GMT -5
You may believe what ever you wish.
And one belief that is certain is this board is a very friendly and peaceful place and also very well moderated. We encourage new friends but do not tolerate problem causers. We might as well get that out of the way right off the bat. Otherwise welcome.
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noudesu
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Post by noudesu on Jun 24, 2010 2:16:02 GMT -5
Hey man don't attack me and call me a troublemaker just because I'm asking a question. I just want to know why Christians believe in a god but not unicorns. Both have equal backing of evidence. If they can't answer such a simple question that's on them; I would hope that they have enough confidence in what they call their lifestyle to be able to answer it.
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Post by Classicblast on Jun 24, 2010 2:23:51 GMT -5
I can't imagine how anybody can think that unicorns and God have equal background or equal proof but you are entitled to your opinion. There are plenty of people who believe in magic of sorts. Some believe that objects have power, some believe that animals can give them knowledge that's along the lines of believing in unicorns and having power.
There's others who believe there's more animal life not necessarily believing that these other animals have powers. That would be the Sasquatch, the yeti and a slew of other animals reported being seen. Most unicorn believers see the unicorn having magical powers I guess but Sasquatch believers see it as a large powerful animal but mortal like all the others.
You may believe what you wish perhaps start a church of the unicorn. Maybe you can get in the 3rd Testament of the bible.
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noudesu
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Post by noudesu on Jun 24, 2010 2:27:14 GMT -5
The fact of the matter is, Christians today don't know the origins of the bible. Nobody is alive that knows how it started up. There is literally as much evidence in some authors making it up as there is in it actually happening. We can also assume that due to the many conflicting religions with claimed authority, most of them must be wrong, meaning that most of the religions claiming authority of age are wrong. You cannot use age as a criteria for validity; the bible is as much proof of god as unicorn stories (which also have no definite origin) are of unicorns.
In short, yes, god has as much proof behind his existence as unicorns or Santa Claus do.
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Post by Classicblast on Jun 24, 2010 2:37:02 GMT -5
That's silly I don't care to debate this. Especially not now its after 3am and I will need to get some sleep. You obviously have very little knowledge of religious practice to see that as being the same. There's plenty of people who have done their homework and have come to a non believing conclusion.
I do not agree. I do believe in God and Jesus Christ his Son. However I am not offended by respectful atheists. To come to our discussion site as a totally new member and make this the opening discussion tends to make me think its done only to be antagonistic.
You didn't introduce yourself, give us any background about yourself at all, even say how you know of us, if you found this site in passing or if you know someone here from another site or what.
That makes me think you are one of our past members looking to stir things up. You seemed to have some knowledge that there are members who practice some kind of organized religion, and your opening post is to challenge the validity of our beliefs.
That whole approach is one that you shouldn't be too surprised to get the response I gave you on the opening post.
I will give you a chance to participate on the boards though.
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Post by Blastgirl on Jun 24, 2010 3:58:33 GMT -5
I don't see a message posting debate changing each others minds either.
Noudesu is right that the writers of the Bible are long dead. You could say the same thing with all of History though. How do we know that Christopher Columbus really sailed the Atlantic to discover land in North America? Maybe North America was always settled and that story was made up and passed on from Generation to Generation until that was the only story people knew.
Columbus in comparison to Bible era people was actually not such a long time ago. He lived in the 1400 and 1500s. The Bible goes back over two thousand years. The Calendar we use now was written by a Catholic Pope though. That's not the point though what the point to that is its not known how many years exactly passed from Jesus to Pope Gregory since there were ways to measure time in the forms of Calendars but they were all different enough to be unsure of exact dates and times.
I think that argument is almost too easy to say "nobody from that era is alive to confirm the validity of it."
You can say the same thing to a suspect who has no real alibi hasn't proven his innocence.
In that case, you judge it according to what you learn from the information you have. That's the top reason there are different approaches to Worship. Different conclusions from the information that is available. Catholics and Protestants of all Denominations do agree that Jesus is the Son of God and achieved Immortality and offers Spiritual Immortality to us. Some of the particulars are interpreted differently but the core information is agreed upon.
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Post by Demona on Jun 24, 2010 4:06:26 GMT -5
I'm not going to debate things right now. All I have to say is I don't like unicorns.
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Post by Phil on Jun 24, 2010 12:17:16 GMT -5
Whoa!
Who said unicorns aren't real?
Let me tell you!
God is real too. He has shown himself to me in a number of ways. I do believe God helps those who help themselves too there's hardly ever a pure miracle.
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Post by Pumpkin on Jun 24, 2010 18:19:38 GMT -5
A wise man should never play leap frog with a unicorn.  |
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Post by Classicblast on Jun 25, 2010 0:47:03 GMT -5
A wise man should never play leap frog with a unicorn. hahaha. That's good advice. |
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Post by Mahnarch on Jun 27, 2010 7:07:20 GMT -5
Fossil!
*holds up a fossil*
....Hi, Earl (noudesu),
How's it been with you?
I hope life finds you well.
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Post by Demona on Jun 27, 2010 14:31:55 GMT -5
Fossil! *holds up a fossil*....Hi, Earl (noudesu), How's it been with you? I hope life finds you well. I'm watching you...  Yes, we ALL know! I wasn't fooled in the beginning either. |
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Post by Phil on Jun 28, 2010 12:51:44 GMT -5
Today's Gospel is from the book of St Philip.  And that was the gospel according to Phil. |
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Post by Demona on Jun 28, 2010 15:58:46 GMT -5
Today's Gospel is from the book of St Philip. And that was the gospel according to Phil. Now we need to find a picture of a dragon killing it! |
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Post by Blastgirl on Jun 28, 2010 23:39:17 GMT -5
Oh no don't hurt this beautiful Unicorn.
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Post by Slayzie on Jun 29, 2010 6:41:22 GMT -5
I can't imagine how anybody can think that unicorns and God have equal background or equal proof but you are entitled to your opinion. But they do. The only reason why people find a god more believable is that they are taught from birth that it exists. If we taught our kids that unicorns are real and that if they don't believe in them they have to suffer eternal torment, people would start believing in the glitter-farting gently caressers. |
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Post by Phil on Jun 29, 2010 13:06:45 GMT -5
Slayzie, that might be a good answer if you're in debate class and need to support the argument that unicorns and God have equal backgrounds.
The vast majority of the world believes there is a God. Not all of them practice religion, but even people who are very disinterested in organized religion mostly believe there is a supreme being or force-- a creator.
If the creator doesn't show Himself to you in some fashion or another you wouldn't believe for the rest of your life.
When I grew up there were some house rules and some policies that my parents had. There came a time I had my own judgment. So I haven't enforced those same rules with my kids. That's not to say that there aren't house rules but not necessarily the same ones I grew up with.
If we went by the philosophy that what you're taught at birth is what you will believe forever there wouldn't be anybody living different from the stone age.
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