November is Coming:

[Mahnarch]

I had a really good idea for a post but, that was all forgotten when I read:

I can't imagine how a system of slackers could really work.

What happens then when there's an attack of some kind?

Hmm, now that I think about it - a world of slackers wouldn't have the ability to attack anyone.
Everyone would be too fat to put down their government cheesie-poofs and government Mountain Dew to attack anyone...


Perhaps we should all follow Slayers way of life!

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[Slayzie]

There's a crucial point you're missing here, which is that this isn't my way of life. it's a way of life which I can understand, and have no problem with, but not one which I would want myself. The system I was advocating was an anarchy, in which slackers would have no place.

Reading, it helps. >_>

[Blix]

This thread was originally about health care, so I'll revert it to that.

Anyone interested in knowing how health care works for Norway, feel free to google it. In my humble opinion it works like hell!! I'm not saying 'Yes is the definitive answer to health care', I'm just saying it works for us.

Gogo, socialism.

[Classicblast]

As long as Blix is focused on staying on topic, I might just toss in here that my concerns about a government sponsored health care program is not automatically declaring the government as committing an act of socialism. Although too much government can I was not saying that its as simple as healthcare by the federal means socialism end of story.

I would have the concerns I mentioned though. I do think its a good idea for those of us in the United States to get input from you on how the system works in Norway, Slayzie posted some info on how the programs work in Australia.

Learn and develop by imitation has been practiced by sports teams for as long as there have been sports. Study a successful team and imitate what they do. Health care programs could be developed that way too.

[Blix]

Yes, absolutely!

Well, the obvious advantages and disadvantages of public health care are higher income taxes, and free emergency help.

I'll just keep it simple for now, but this means that in the long run, funds gets evened out between the masses a bit. I know a lot of people that think that this means "steal from the rich, and give to the poor", and it's almost like that.

This system doesn't affect the state economy at all, because income taxes are regulated proportionally to the annual health care budget. So, it's a kind of a "pre-emptive strike".

An example:

With health care: A man gets injured while hiking, and gets a pretty bad infection in his arm. He works as a janitor, and therefore doesn't really earn that much, and 28% of his income gets taxed. He goes to the hospital, gets expensive surgery, and is back in work within three weeks.

Without health care: He can't afford the operation, and ends up losing his arm. (The amputation ended up costing a bit as well I would guess.) Now, not being able to perform his duties as a Janitor, he loses his job and becomes an economical burden to his family, and to society in general.


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I don't know if you'd think of this as a valid example, but this is how we make things work around here. ^^ It's a way to keep all the ants in the hive working. None of the ants feel neglected, because the higher taxes always comes back to them in the end.

[Blix]

Also, is socialism necessarily a bad thing?