Sarah Palin

[Phil]

What do you think?

I'm delighted. I think John McCain has chosen a good candidate for vice president.

Sarah Palin is the Alaska governor. Oh and by far the best looking female candidate for any national office in a long time if not ever.

That was just a remark

I think I like her. She fits the conservative criteria I like. I think this ticket will be intriguing.

She hasn't been in government all that long but neither has Barack Obama really.

So we end up with a African American - friends of lewasite do you mind if I drop the politically correct here?

we have a Black candidate who is new in government or at least kind of new. But he is backed up by a well known statesman from Delaware to be the vp

Then we have an older candidate 71 years old in the same age group as Ronald Reagan -also an Irish man-
A senior statesman backed up by a woman who is sort of new in government.

I think this should prove interesting. Very interesting.

[Mist.]

I'm all for Obama/Biden.... I'm against McCain/Palin
that's just my opinion....
Obama, offers a lot of hope to the country which is what we need, we need change.
McCain agrees with Bush about 90% on the issues. I'd rather not only have a 10% chance of change.
Obama gave a great speech at his convention last night, I watched the whole thing and I really like his views on certain issues. If I was allowed to vote I'd have to go with Obama.

[Phil]

I agree with Bush on about 90 % of social issues too. I actually think our country is lucky to have a decisive leader and I also think most of America doesn't know how screwed they would be if Al Gore or John Kerry had gotten in.

Change can be good but I would like to know just what Obama would like to change.

I agree that he has new ideas and new ideas can be refreshing but I don't think at times of need a liberal politician is good to have in charge.

I get arguments from my union over this all the time. I can not support abortion and all of the democrats support that.

My mother had 3 miscarriages and I can't describe the horror she felt each time. The crying spells and just at the time of the brithdays she still feels very sad. And to abort like that's not even a child or its the same as pulling a tooth angers me.

My mother had miscarriages in 1974, 1977 and 1978. I can't descrobe how miraculous the birth of my brother in 1980 followed by my sister in 1982 was. And suddenly how lucky I felt to even have been born under such circumstances. Granted I was before the 3 miscarriages.

Then watching my 3 kids come into the world to not think that's a baby inside is also upsetting.

The war? Nobody wants war but this is a war on terrorism. 1 of McCains sons was over in Iraq and 1 of Sara Palin's sons will be there in September. When Jesse Ventura measures a war's necessity as 'would you send your son?' both of the candidates on the McCain/Palin ticket have. That at least jusfities it that way. Justifies their feeling as being sincere that is.

You never really know how necessary a war or military action is. There's never really beyond any doubt about such things. And of course you dont' want to see people get killed and even the most dominant of wars has casualties. There's no way around it.

I certainly respect Mist's opinion, but those are some big reasons I am voting for McCain.

[Pumpkin]

It's a smart pick on McCain's part. Actually, I was thinking about both tickets today and it dawned on me that I like the Veep candidates much better than the presidential candidates themselves.

I'm not a Democrat, but I have always liked two Dems in particular, Joe Biden and Joe Lieberman. I was kind of hoping McCain would pick Lieberman, but Sarah's a good choice too. I think both McCain and Obama have shown good judgement in their veep choices, and that bodes well for the future.

[Kimm]

I think Liberman is probably a moderate Democrat, but not conservative enough for the national Republican committee to see a bi-partisan ticket.

I think that would be possible for a democrat or republican candidate to choose an opposite party runningmate but the running mate would have to be somebody not holding a current office.

I think that's the political game.

Like if a Republican chose a democrat that is the Governor of Vermont or whatever, the Republicans might have too much of a debate record against this person to turn around and support him.

Also the democratic party would be angry because they put their efforts and fundings into getting this person elected and now he runs as a vice to a republican president?

I think it could work from the viewpoints of us as the people but the parties would be so angry that might never really be possible for that reason unless something very dramatic happened.

Like in the case of the end to the Cival War Abraham Lincoln was a Republican president he picked Andrew Johnson a southern Democrat to be the vice president as part of a deal to bring the union together.

That was an extreme scenario though I don't know that the 2 parties could come together the same way now.

[Jason O'Lewa]

my grandpa says every election is the same if its the president or even the mayor
the party in power runs to say let us finish the job we started
the party not in power says vote for change.

[Kimm]

Aug 30, 2008 21:32:19 GMT -5 Jason O'Lewa said:

my grandpa says every election is the same if its the president or even the mayor
the party in power runs to say let us finish the job we started
the party not in power says vote for change.

Thats pretty true Jason. But thats the fundamental debate. The party in office wants to stay and the opponents want them out.

Like you said:
Let us finish the job vs Change.

Whats kind of interesting is some of the debate about experience. Theyre saying Sarah Palin only has a year and a half experience.

But what about Barack Obama? He has only been in office 3 years and has been campaigning for the last year and a half. He doesnt have much experience either.

I think from both of those points of view theyre both change.

[Classicblast]

On both tickets we have something new. We have an Afro-American on one and a woman on the other. Granted Geraldine Ferraro ran for vice President in 1984 so this is not a first.

Obviously this ticket makes history either way. The "inexperience" issue is a wash. You have Sarah Palin and Barrack Obama with about the same amount of time in government while John McCain and Joe Biden are both fixtures in congress.

Time in government is about a wash there.

[edlin]

I keep confusing Sarah Palin with Michael Palin. xD

I'm not much into this politics st00f. 'nuff said.

[Bartleby, the Scrivener]

[Phil]

And you wondered what he was grinning for. Old John's no fool.

I wish I had more time to discuss this but I have to leave for work. Take care all.

[Mist.]

Sarah Palin's 17 year old daughter is now pregnant.
If she can't control her own family how do you expect her to be able to run a country?

[farti1]

Sept 1, 2008 21:23:51 GMT -5 Mist. said:

Sarah Palin's 17 year old daughter is now pregnant.
If she can't control her own family how do you expect her to be able to run a country?

We may need to ask Bill, Hillary and Monica about self control and running a country.

[Bartleby, the Scrivener]

ooooooooooooooooooooo burn.
Bill had an affair is that all you have on him? George Washington grew marijuana, you want to go after him or is this just another partisan attack on the Dems?

[farti1]

What I meant to point out was Bill Clinton still managed to do a good job running the country while his personal life was being thrown into his face everyday. Was marijuana illegal back when George Washington was president?
I have no problem with Sarah Palin's daughter being pregnant. She is getting married to the 18 year old guy and having the baby. The media circus always finds this crap to throw into the mix.

[Classicblast]

Obviously Sarah Palin's daughter is not Sarah Palin. That means that a 17 year old had free will and can't be supervised every moment of everyday. If you ever did something you were not allowed to or without the knowledge of your parents that does not mean your parents didn't do their job.

I think a pregnant daughter is remote if they're looking for a corrupt background on Sarah Palin.

[Antonio]

Sept 1, 2008 21:23:51 GMT -5 Mist. said:

Sarah Palin's 17 year old daughter is now pregnant.
If she can't control her own family how do you expect her to be able to run a country?

lol.

[Mahnarch]

Sarah Palin is the Alaska governor. Oh and by far the best looking female candidate for any national office in a long time if not ever.

That was just a remark

Well, if that gets your vote, Phil, I'm going to have your wife as a running mate in 2012!

Obama, offers a lot of hope to the country which is what we need, we need change.

Name one change he is offering.

The change in higher taxes to pay for medical care for illegals, vagrants and people on welfare who don't want to work?

The change to tax 'Big Oil' (YOU - if you have an IRA, Roth IRA, Mutual Fund or Money Market Account that you look forward to in retirement)?

The change to keep out own oil in the ground while we shell out Billions to our enemies that want to turn around and cut our heads off?

The change make it impossible to protect yourself on your own neighborhood street corner or home?



More of the same is O.K. for now.
I'll vote McCain just to float along for the time being.

We may need to ask Bill, Hillary and Monica about self control and running a country.

This.

ooooooooooooooooooooo burn.
Bill had an affair is that all you have on him? George Washington grew marijuana, you want to go after him or is this just another partisan attack on the Dems?

Some have owned slaves.

Obviously Sarah Palin's daughter is not Sarah Palin. That means that a 17 year old had free will and can't be supervised every moment of everyday. If you ever did something you were not allowed to or without the knowledge of your parents that does not mean your parents didn't do their job.

You also have to remember: It's Alaska.
Eskimos get married off at 14ish and families are tightly bound and carry their houses on sleds behind their dog sleds.

Like my ma says: "A parent shouldn't go to jail because their kid didn't go to school. Put the kid in jail to show them the consequences."